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I thought this sounded familiar - AlexMuir called it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2902749 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2902749 and score one for

I thought this sounded familiar - AlexMuir called it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2902749 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2902749 and score one for Larry Ellison: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3051730 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3051730

halfwit 14y ago
Yeah, go back and actually look at those comments RE: Larry Ellison. Everyone is pissed that he wasn't acting professionally; it's all about decorum and how Ellison is a jerk that nerds wouldn't want to work for, due to appearances. Zero interest in whether what was posted on Oracle.com was correct. The focus on optics and "niceness" here is really unfortunate. Because, the thing about when somebody says something that's not nice, that you wouldn't repeat to your grandmother, maybe even contains words like "fuck", is that it could still be true. And it should be treated that way.
debacle 14y ago
halfwit, you appear to be hellbanned on HN. You might want to take that up with pg.
- shasta 14y ago
  Do to the frequency with which I see people attempting to alert a hell banned party (which obviously defeats its purpose), I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the hell banned can't see any post that contains the word 'hell banned'.
  - jobu 14y ago
    Sorry continuing this off-topic thread, but I'm actually curious what it takes to become 'hell banned'. I've noticed several banned users lately, and this is another case where none of the user's comments/submissions seem overly trollish or offensive.
- halfwit 14y ago
  I know. And I'm sure pg could not care less. Thank you, though.
AlexMuir 14y ago
Haha. Here's another one I am skeptical about - BlinkX. Edit: I just went to check their stock price - it's down 12%. Hmmm, I thought, has Autonomy cast a shadow on UK techs? Wait a minute - who's this grimmacing at me down the bottom? http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Summary?s=BLNX:LSE http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Summary?s=... It's only Dr Mike Lynch, Non-Executive Director. Who'd have thunk it?
- davidu 14y ago
  We at OpenDNS have believed BlinkX to have something less than above board going on based on some VERY UNUSUAL traffic patterns that we started to notice a couple years ago related to ad clicks. Ad clicks that we couldn't explain in any legitimate way. We never dived too deep, and never pursued, so no evidence to present, just a theory we had internally.
  - hncommenter13 14y ago
    If you don't mind, could you perhaps shed a bit of light on this (or if not on this situation in particular, on the type of data to which you're referring)? I've often thought of DNS-derived data as a potential source of independent info on traffic patterns, fraudulent clicks, etc., so I'm particularly curious.
jobu 14y ago
Unfortunately I can't seem to find it, but I thought there was a quote from Larry in all the HP/Oracle mudslinging about Autonomy barely being worth $1Billion. That's pretty impressive forecasting given that HP now values them at about 1.5B (10.3B purchase price minus the 8.8B write-down).

halfwit 14y ago

Yeah, go back and actually look at those comments RE: Larry Ellison. Everyone is pissed that he wasn't acting professionally; it's all about decorum and how Ellison is a jerk that nerds wouldn't want to work for, due to appearances. Zero interest in whether what was posted on Oracle.com was correct. The focus on optics and "niceness" here is really unfortunate. Because, the thing about when somebody says something that's not nice, that you wouldn't repeat to your grandmother, maybe even contains words like "fuck", is that it could still be true. And it should be treated that way.

debacle 14y ago

halfwit, you appear to be hellbanned on HN. You might want to take that up with pg.

shasta 14y ago
Do to the frequency with which I see people attempting to alert a hell banned party (which obviously defeats its purpose), I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the hell banned can't see any post that contains the word 'hell banned'.
- jobu 14y ago
  Sorry continuing this off-topic thread, but I'm actually curious what it takes to become 'hell banned'. I've noticed several banned users lately, and this is another case where none of the user's comments/submissions seem overly trollish or offensive.
halfwit 14y ago
I know. And I'm sure pg could not care less. Thank you, though.

AlexMuir 14y ago

Haha. Here's another one I am skeptical about - BlinkX. Edit: I just went to check their stock price - it's down 12%. Hmmm, I thought, has Autonomy cast a shadow on UK techs? Wait a minute - who's this grimmacing at me down the bottom? http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Summary?s=BLNX:LSE http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Summary?s=... It's only Dr Mike Lynch, Non-Executive Director. Who'd have thunk it?

davidu 14y ago
We at OpenDNS have believed BlinkX to have something less than above board going on based on some VERY UNUSUAL traffic patterns that we started to notice a couple years ago related to ad clicks. Ad clicks that we couldn't explain in any legitimate way. We never dived too deep, and never pursued, so no evidence to present, just a theory we had internally.
- hncommenter13 14y ago
  If you don't mind, could you perhaps shed a bit of light on this (or if not on this situation in particular, on the type of data to which you're referring)? I've often thought of DNS-derived data as a potential source of independent info on traffic patterns, fraudulent clicks, etc., so I'm particularly curious.

jobu 14y ago

Unfortunately I can't seem to find it, but I thought there was a quote from Larry in all the HP/Oracle mudslinging about Autonomy barely being worth $1Billion. That's pretty impressive forecasting given that HP now values them at about 1.5B (10.3B purchase price minus the 8.8B write-down).