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But perhaps we should regard it as a major achievement.
by kerabatsos 4mo ago
But perhaps we should regard it as a major achievement.
- lmpdev 4mo agoI mean in the same way getting Wolfram Alpha to solve a really hard/ugly differential equation I suppose
- aspenmartin 4mo agoInsane that we have a system capable of making innovative math proofs and people dismiss it as unimpressive
- doginasuit 4mo agoThe creation of the system is deeply impressive, so are compilers but I don't raise a toast to it each time I build my code. Like generated art, people aren't going appreciate it on the same level.
- aspenmartin 4mo agoWow you consider this on the same level of impressiveness as a compiler?
- doginasuit 4mo agoI actually consider compilers more impressive, and a compiler was an important part of making this possible.
- aspenmartin 4mo agoTo each their own. I mean compilers didn’t produce trillions of dollars of investment, and produce serious and profound philosophical questions about the nature of consciousness but you’re right, thank god we have C
- doginasuit 4mo agoCompilers just made it all possible, but they are not new and shiny. LLMs did not produce the philosophical questions, but they do raise them. It's worth noting that computers have been changing the way we think about consciousness long before LLMs, largely thanks to compilers.
- aspenmartin 4mo agoYea there’s no logical stopping point when you use that logic. Why not say electricity or the element silicon?
- dag100 4mo agoI don't think the level of investment in an idea is equivalent to how impressive it may be. Most of the investment in AI is based on the idea that it will make professions and human labour obsolete, which means whoever has the reins at the moment it "solves" the "problem" of human labour will effectively reign over everyone else. The level of investment is then somewhat orthogonal to how technically impressive it is. Not to mention that the less easily-explainable a technical achievement is, the less investment it will attract simply because fewer people will grasp the ramifications. You can describe AI in two words ("machine human") while it would take a few more to describe compilers in an instantly understandable way.
- doginasuit 4mo agoThis may not go over well but I also find electricity more impressive.
- foobar10000 4mo agoI mean - I'd say electricity, agriculture, steam power, metallurgy, silicon computing (cmos), atomic power, the scientific method - these are _all_ very impressive - all lead to drastic changes for humanity. Not sure how I'd rank them. I personally think AI will end up sitting in the top 3 of these - but that is an opinion. I do think it is obvious it is at least _somewhere_ in that list.
- brookst 4mo agoAre transistors more impressive than compilers then? And presumably accounting is more impressive than transistors? I’m not sure I can get behind the “foundations are necessarily more impressive than edifices” view..
- adampunk 4mo agoMario Andretti could never have won a motor race without a car, yet we say he won the Indy500.
- dmbche 4mo agoA motor race is defined by someone pilotting a motor car no? We might not think we rightfully won an on foot race driving a car, yeah?
- 2wdfsd 4mo agoAnd? What a stupid post. These race car drivers are lauded for steering a particular kind of car amongst their competitors. The human is what people care about - the car whilst being spectacular is literally just a vehicle. I swear many here don't understand human's at all.