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None of that would require the "create derivative works" part. I honestly can't see any legitimate reason why they'd have the right to derivate work from yours

None of that would require the "create derivative works" part. I honestly can't see any legitimate reason why they'd have the right to derivate work from yours, and you don't insert that kind of terms by mistake.

sdenton4 5mo ago
Probably 'we reserve the right to train our next version of smart autocomplete based on the text you send to the current version of smart autocomplete'
- svnt 5mo ago
  Which is not different in kind from “we use your source code to improve our products” and is functionally identical to “we own your output because you use our editor.” How do people continually fall for this. Refusing to look at the playbook that has been run time and time again and then getting offended when it is too late.
mkl 5mo ago
AI tab completion and agentic edits are often derivative works.
- makeitdouble 5mo ago
  But should they own any rights on these outputs and edits done to your source code?
  - freehorse 5mo ago
    They don't. Paragraph 4.2, "Customer's Ownership of Output" [0]. I recite verbatim below for the sake of clarity. These are about processing the data, not owning it. They need to process the data eg to provide llm-based tab-completion. A completion is derivative work, and it is also owned by the customer, as it says below. [0] https://zed.dev/terms#42-customers-ownership-of-output https://zed.dev/terms#42-customers-ownership-of-output > The Service may generate specifically for, and make available to, Customer text and written content based on or in response to Customer Data input into the Service (collectively, “Output”), including through the use of technologies that incorporate or rely upon artificial intelligence, machine learning techniques, and other similar technology and features. As between the Parties, to the greatest extent permitted by applicable Laws, Customer owns all Output and Zed hereby irrevocably assigns to Customer all right, title, and interest in and to the Output that Zed may possess. For the avoidance of doubt, Zed and its AI Providers will not retain or use Customer Data for the purpose of improving or training the Service or any AI Provider products, except to the extent Customer explicitly opts-in on Zed’s specific feature to allow training and/or such improvement (such as fine-tuning) and is solely for the benefit of Customer.

sdenton4 5mo ago

Probably 'we reserve the right to train our next version of smart autocomplete based on the text you send to the current version of smart autocomplete'

svnt 5mo ago
Which is not different in kind from “we use your source code to improve our products” and is functionally identical to “we own your output because you use our editor.” How do people continually fall for this. Refusing to look at the playbook that has been run time and time again and then getting offended when it is too late.

mkl 5mo ago

AI tab completion and agentic edits are often derivative works.

makeitdouble 5mo ago
But should they own any rights on these outputs and edits done to your source code?
- freehorse 5mo ago
  They don't. Paragraph 4.2, "Customer's Ownership of Output" [0]. I recite verbatim below for the sake of clarity. These are about processing the data, not owning it. They need to process the data eg to provide llm-based tab-completion. A completion is derivative work, and it is also owned by the customer, as it says below. [0] https://zed.dev/terms#42-customers-ownership-of-output https://zed.dev/terms#42-customers-ownership-of-output > The Service may generate specifically for, and make available to, Customer text and written content based on or in response to Customer Data input into the Service (collectively, “Output”), including through the use of technologies that incorporate or rely upon artificial intelligence, machine learning techniques, and other similar technology and features. As between the Parties, to the greatest extent permitted by applicable Laws, Customer owns all Output and Zed hereby irrevocably assigns to Customer all right, title, and interest in and to the Output that Zed may possess. For the avoidance of doubt, Zed and its AI Providers will not retain or use Customer Data for the purpose of improving or training the Service or any AI Provider products, except to the extent Customer explicitly opts-in on Zed’s specific feature to allow training and/or such improvement (such as fine-tuning) and is solely for the benefit of Customer.