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NJ got snubbed in this submission. We still have tons of independent diners (around 450 according to this article: https://www.npr.org/2024/04/01/1241959475/new

NJ got snubbed in this submission. We still have tons of independent diners (around 450 according to this article: https://www.npr.org/2024/04/01/1241959475/new-jersey-diners-adapt-to-survive-in-state-dubbed-diner-capital-of-the-world https://www.npr.org/2024/04/01/1241959475/new-jersey-diners-... )

mc32 5mo ago
Yeah, it's weird, NJ is pretty well-known for having iconic Diners. People from many different states will know about NJ diners. https://www.tastingtable.com/1203923/best-diners-in-new-jersey-ranked/ https://www.tastingtable.com/1203923/best-diners-in-new-jers...
- fipar 5mo ago
  And people not even from the states (like me) know about NJ diners because one saw the birth of Unicode :)
  - koolba 5mo ago
    > … NJ diners because one saw the birth of Unicode While it’s possible that Unicode was also conceived at a diner, you’re likely thinking of UTF-8. Unicode was from a decade earlier. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/utf-8-history.txt https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/utf-8-history.txt
    - fipar 5mo ago
      Yup! That's what I was thinking about. In fact I did read this right before posting (though I had found it at https://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utf-8_history https://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utf-8_history) but only to validate that it had been in a NJ diner, so I missed my confusion of UTF-8 with Unicode. I would not make a good fact-checker :(
  - caymanjim 5mo ago
    It's virtually guaranteed that much of the birth of Unix itself took place at NJ diners.
- ascagnel_ 5mo ago
  I'm shocked that Tops earned #1 -- they did a remodel a few years ago and started taking reservations (and turning people away during busy periods if they didn't have one), and it's much less of a diner and much more of a restaurant nowadays. Also, the Bendix Diner is closed, likely permanently, because of fire code violations.
xhkkffbf 5mo ago
And a number of restaurants that might as well be diners, but they're just a tad fancier. I'm thinking of the Chatterbox in Ocean City, NJ, for instance. Grace Kelly used to be a waitress.

mc32 5mo ago

Yeah, it's weird, NJ is pretty well-known for having iconic Diners. People from many different states will know about NJ diners. https://www.tastingtable.com/1203923/best-diners-in-new-jersey-ranked/ https://www.tastingtable.com/1203923/best-diners-in-new-jers...

fipar 5mo ago
And people not even from the states (like me) know about NJ diners because one saw the birth of Unicode :)
- koolba 5mo ago
  > … NJ diners because one saw the birth of Unicode While it’s possible that Unicode was also conceived at a diner, you’re likely thinking of UTF-8. Unicode was from a decade earlier. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/utf-8-history.txt https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/utf-8-history.txt
  - fipar 5mo ago
    Yup! That's what I was thinking about. In fact I did read this right before posting (though I had found it at https://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utf-8_history https://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utf-8_history) but only to validate that it had been in a NJ diner, so I missed my confusion of UTF-8 with Unicode. I would not make a good fact-checker :(
- caymanjim 5mo ago
  It's virtually guaranteed that much of the birth of Unix itself took place at NJ diners.
ascagnel_ 5mo ago
I'm shocked that Tops earned #1 -- they did a remodel a few years ago and started taking reservations (and turning people away during busy periods if they didn't have one), and it's much less of a diner and much more of a restaurant nowadays. Also, the Bendix Diner is closed, likely permanently, because of fire code violations.

xhkkffbf 5mo ago

And a number of restaurants that might as well be diners, but they're just a tad fancier. I'm thinking of the Chatterbox in Ocean City, NJ, for instance. Grace Kelly used to be a waitress.