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Hopefully this money means more compute infrastructure to help Anthropic counter the efficiency changes that have created this perceived downtrend in claude qua

Hopefully this money means more compute infrastructure to help Anthropic counter the efficiency changes that have created this perceived downtrend in claude quality.

palmotea 5mo ago
The puzzling thing is why Google would try to help with that. Aren't they competitors? Wouldn't they want their competitor to have problems? It's more understanding for Amazon or Microsoft to make such an investment, because they're not as competitive in the model space.
- morelikeborelax 5mo ago
  What if Google can't compete? They don't want to be left behind and all this money being throw around is just nonsense anyway.
- infecto 5mo ago
  Google was already an investor in Anthropic but I don’t think they are truly competitors in this space.
- michelb 5mo ago
  Deepmind is heavily using Claude. This could help secure computing power.
  - tomrod 5mo ago
    I'm not up to date, I think. How so?
    - michelb 5mo ago
      There's been a spat between some people on X, about how few engineers inside Google want to work with Gemini, given that it apparently is not great with code, and they would rather use Claude. This same sentiment is there within Deepmind, except they have more power it seems. Perhaps Google is hedging their bet? Best non-X link I could find: https://benzatine.com/news-room/internal-strife-at-google-the-claude-access-divide https://benzatine.com/news-room/internal-strife-at-google-th...
- mchusma 5mo ago
  Google owned 14ish percent of Anthropic before this investment, so presumably this could bring it up to as much as 25%?
- bmurphy1976 5mo ago
  There's always three: Google buys Anthropic. Microsoft buys Open AI (or vice versa depending on how things go). SpaceGrok buys Cursor, limps along in 3rd place. Meta is the last man standing, get's stuck with Oracle, dies. And then hopefully some open source models save us from this nightmare before China commadatises everything. Edit: I forgot Amazon. Who knows what they will do. They're the wildcard anyway.
  - _puk 5mo ago
    OpenAI buying Microsoft.. I honestly think I'd like to see that. Anything to invigorate the desktop. Microsoft buying OpenAI.. 10 minutes later it's rebranded Copilot.. and.. nothing much changes in the world. Oh, except all the AI improvements are around Enterprise governance.
  - TranquilMarmot 5mo ago
    I hate how plausible this is
littlestymaar 5mo ago
> the efficiency changes that have created this perceived downtrend in claude quality” Why the euphemism? What Anthropic did was an aggressive degradation of their model to save compute, and it's not just “perceived downtrend”, Anthropic themselves have acknowledged the quality of service degradation.

Hopefully this money means more compute infrastructure to help Anthropic counter the efficiency changes that have created this perceived downtrend in claude quality.

palmotea 5mo ago

The puzzling thing is why Google would try to help with that. Aren't they competitors? Wouldn't they want their competitor to have problems? It's more understanding for Amazon or Microsoft to make such an investment, because they're not as competitive in the model space.

morelikeborelax 5mo ago
What if Google can't compete? They don't want to be left behind and all this money being throw around is just nonsense anyway.
infecto 5mo ago
Google was already an investor in Anthropic but I don’t think they are truly competitors in this space.
michelb 5mo ago
Deepmind is heavily using Claude. This could help secure computing power.
- tomrod 5mo ago
  I'm not up to date, I think. How so?
  - michelb 5mo ago
    There's been a spat between some people on X, about how few engineers inside Google want to work with Gemini, given that it apparently is not great with code, and they would rather use Claude. This same sentiment is there within Deepmind, except they have more power it seems. Perhaps Google is hedging their bet? Best non-X link I could find: https://benzatine.com/news-room/internal-strife-at-google-the-claude-access-divide https://benzatine.com/news-room/internal-strife-at-google-th...
mchusma 5mo ago
Google owned 14ish percent of Anthropic before this investment, so presumably this could bring it up to as much as 25%?
bmurphy1976 5mo ago
There's always three: Google buys Anthropic. Microsoft buys Open AI (or vice versa depending on how things go). SpaceGrok buys Cursor, limps along in 3rd place. Meta is the last man standing, get's stuck with Oracle, dies. And then hopefully some open source models save us from this nightmare before China commadatises everything. Edit: I forgot Amazon. Who knows what they will do. They're the wildcard anyway.
- _puk 5mo ago
  OpenAI buying Microsoft.. I honestly think I'd like to see that. Anything to invigorate the desktop. Microsoft buying OpenAI.. 10 minutes later it's rebranded Copilot.. and.. nothing much changes in the world. Oh, except all the AI improvements are around Enterprise governance.
- TranquilMarmot 5mo ago
  I hate how plausible this is

littlestymaar 5mo ago

> the efficiency changes that have created this perceived downtrend in claude quality” Why the euphemism? What Anthropic did was an aggressive degradation of their model to save compute, and it's not just “perceived downtrend”, Anthropic themselves have acknowledged the quality of service degradation.