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> people must prove their value via an extraordinary work ethic Ironically, this is the literal opposite of Christianity. Christianity in a nutshell is "Jesus

> people must prove their value via an extraordinary work ethic Ironically, this is the literal opposite of Christianity. Christianity in a nutshell is "Jesus saves people because we are incapable of saving ourselves."

newsoftheday 5mo ago
You're understanding falls far short. Jesus saves us from the final end destruction, and helps us who believe on him through our daily lives. Some people get along fine without religion. What happens to them when the final destruction (from God, not man) gets here depends on whether these people continue to do it all on their own and choose to not believe; or whether they choose to let him in and believe. In either case, Jesus is about the final end of humans which will be done by God and is outside our control, even outside Jesus' control; that is what Christianity is about.
- nemomarx 5mo ago
  something being within gods control but not within Jesus is a little heretical, to my understanding of the Trinity. You might want to talk through that with your priest sometime?
  - newsoftheday 5mo ago
    Jesus himself said he does not know when God will end the world. That is what I was referring to.
- hackable_sand 5mo ago
  No, that is the malformed belief chain of doomsday cultists.
spwa4 5mo ago
Given where the world is headed, I'm starting to see the wisdom in that more and more.
AnimalMuppet 5mo ago
In addition, people have intrinsic worth/value/identity because they are made in the image of God. So, yeah. "Must earn their worth" may sound "Christian", but it's not Christianity.
- tuna74 5mo ago
  Mules are cheaper as well if you don't have coal readily available.
  - giardini 5mo ago
    Thanks for the suggestion! I've always wanted to own a mule and now you've provided me with a justification!
- GetTheFacts 5mo ago
  >So, yeah. "Must earn their worth" may sound "Christian", but it's not Christianity. Blasphemer! That's the primary tenet of the "Prosperity Gospel"[0], the primary form of Christianity in the US. For shame! You will burn in hell for that. Unless you donate $100,000.00 to Creflo Dollar[1] right now! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creflo_Dollar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creflo_Dollar

newsoftheday 5mo ago

You're understanding falls far short. Jesus saves us from the final end destruction, and helps us who believe on him through our daily lives. Some people get along fine without religion. What happens to them when the final destruction (from God, not man) gets here depends on whether these people continue to do it all on their own and choose to not believe; or whether they choose to let him in and believe. In either case, Jesus is about the final end of humans which will be done by God and is outside our control, even outside Jesus' control; that is what Christianity is about.

nemomarx 5mo ago
something being within gods control but not within Jesus is a little heretical, to my understanding of the Trinity. You might want to talk through that with your priest sometime?
- newsoftheday 5mo ago
  Jesus himself said he does not know when God will end the world. That is what I was referring to.
hackable_sand 5mo ago
No, that is the malformed belief chain of doomsday cultists.

spwa4 5mo ago

Given where the world is headed, I'm starting to see the wisdom in that more and more.

AnimalMuppet 5mo ago

In addition, people have intrinsic worth/value/identity because they are made in the image of God. So, yeah. "Must earn their worth" may sound "Christian", but it's not Christianity.

tuna74 5mo ago
Mules are cheaper as well if you don't have coal readily available.
- giardini 5mo ago
  Thanks for the suggestion! I've always wanted to own a mule and now you've provided me with a justification!
GetTheFacts 5mo ago
>So, yeah. "Must earn their worth" may sound "Christian", but it's not Christianity. Blasphemer! That's the primary tenet of the "Prosperity Gospel"[0], the primary form of Christianity in the US. For shame! You will burn in hell for that. Unless you donate $100,000.00 to Creflo Dollar[1] right now! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creflo_Dollar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creflo_Dollar