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Yea, I've seen a lot of whining online, because its more expensive, but from the interactions I've had I'd say, that it's well worth it. To me it feels like ano

Yea, I've seen a lot of whining online, because its more expensive, but from the interactions I've had I'd say, that it's well worth it. To me it feels like another step change, similar to when 4.5 was introduced. Definitely a different beast. EDIT: it is also surprising to me that everyone seems to believe the people at Anthropic are simply incompetent and recklessly risking their good reputation, while very few consider the possible good reasons they might have for taking such drastic measures. And I don't think it's because of financial pressures in their case

user34283 5mo ago
I can’t say I’ve used it extensively enough to draw a conclusion, but it did seem similar to GPT 5.4 in Codex. When I threw it at a difficult issue in an iOS app, it like GPT came up with wrongly guessed explanations. It only found the issue after I had it instrument the app and add extensive logs. Usually GPT 5.4 is the same. Only that with GPT 5.4 it’s at least included in my subscription, while sending 3-4 messages to Opus 4.7 for this blew through my $20 plan limits and consumed $10 of extra usage on top. At that point I can’t help but bring up how much more expensive it is.
- weikju 5mo ago
  > Only that with GPT 5.4 it’s at least included in my subscription, while sending 3-4 messages to Opus 4.7 for this blew through my $20 plan limits and consumed $10 of extra usage on top. At that point I can’t help but bring up how much more expensive it is. Rest assured OpenAI won’t want to leave that kind of money on the table…
  - user34283 5mo ago
    There’s also still Google with their TPUs, xAI has some large models in the works, not to mention China. With that much competition and ongoing improvements, I don’t have such a pessimistic view on future usage limits and cost.
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beering 5mo ago
Having too much usage and not enough GPUs is a form of financial pressure, no? since you want to replace your less profitable customers with more profitable customers

user34283 5mo ago

I can’t say I’ve used it extensively enough to draw a conclusion, but it did seem similar to GPT 5.4 in Codex. When I threw it at a difficult issue in an iOS app, it like GPT came up with wrongly guessed explanations. It only found the issue after I had it instrument the app and add extensive logs. Usually GPT 5.4 is the same. Only that with GPT 5.4 it’s at least included in my subscription, while sending 3-4 messages to Opus 4.7 for this blew through my $20 plan limits and consumed $10 of extra usage on top. At that point I can’t help but bring up how much more expensive it is.

weikju 5mo ago
> Only that with GPT 5.4 it’s at least included in my subscription, while sending 3-4 messages to Opus 4.7 for this blew through my $20 plan limits and consumed $10 of extra usage on top. At that point I can’t help but bring up how much more expensive it is. Rest assured OpenAI won’t want to leave that kind of money on the table…
- user34283 5mo ago
  There’s also still Google with their TPUs, xAI has some large models in the works, not to mention China. With that much competition and ongoing improvements, I don’t have such a pessimistic view on future usage limits and cost.

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beering 5mo ago

Having too much usage and not enough GPUs is a form of financial pressure, no? since you want to replace your less profitable customers with more profitable customers