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however you might feel about AI generated media, flooding platforms with unlabeled slop is nothing but scammer behavior and we should take serious measures to d
by devindotcom 5mo ago
however you might feel about AI generated media, flooding platforms with unlabeled slop is nothing but scammer behavior and we should take serious measures to disincentivize it for both the uploaders and service providers.
I do suspect we are in for a lot of verified-human platforms where your fee goes to supporting establishing an artist or author's humanity beyond a reasonable doubt.
- ambicapter 5mo agoIs it free to upload these files? Maybe a 1¢ fee would be enough to kill a majority of the spam.
- saaaaaam 5mo agoEffectively yes. There are plenty of music distributors that have “no fee” distribution where they simply take a percentage of any royalties. I suspect we are going to see that model quickly go out of favour though.
- TremendousJudge 5mo agoreally? there are ways of putting music on Spotify that don't involve paying a fee upfront at any time?
- hombre_fatal 5mo agoWhat does human verification look like when you grant that it’s impossible to tell?
- devindotcom 5mo agoI don't grant it. if you mean it is impossible to tell from the music itself, perhaps. but there are other means of verification.
- somewhatgoated 5mo agoA human can still upload tons of AI generated music though? I don’t see how verifying that the author is a human helps in any way. I also don’t think it’s a big problem but that’s another discussion
- devindotcom 5mo agosounds like you don't really care about this honestly, so i'll reflect your apathy
- somewhatgoated 5mo agowhy even type all that then?
- hombre_fatal 5mo agoWhat are any reasonable examples of how you can verify a song wasn't AI-generated? e.g. Game speedrunners film the whole process to prove they did it themselves. Presumably you had some ideas when you envisioned "human-verified platforms".
- devindotcom 5mo agomusic can be performed live and in person. many musicians work with other musicians, labels, studios etc. a web of trust can be built and verification via performance is a compelling option. not complete but it's certainly an option. would you as a label sign an artist you'd never seen perform? maybe there is value in a platform working under similar constraints.