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In the other hand, shouldn't it be the objective of humanity to not HAVE to work for the most basic survival and to fit into society? Not that we're in any way

by Unai 5mo ago

In the other hand, shouldn't it be the objective of humanity to not HAVE to work for the most basic survival and to fit into society? Not that we're in any way in that path, of course, with the people making the working machines also accumulating all the wealth. But still, there's something intrinsically good about automation, even when the system is not suited for it.

grvdrm 5mo ago
But in another world doesn’t automation just produce yet another set of things to do? Perhaps i am doing this all wrong but in my world more automation has never produced less work unless I conveniently told no one and therefore filled “free” time how i wanted.
- munksbeer 5mo ago
  You're sending mixed messages here. Automation is going to put us all out of jobs, or automation isn't going to produce less work and so we'll still have lots to do? Personally, I think until real AGI, the current LLMs will automate a lot of tasks, but the market will adapt and humans still end up with about the same percentage of employment and wages.
  - grvdrm 5mo ago
    My original post was about her comment. It seemed like she was both concerned about the presence of jobs for kids while also investing in the very thing possibly taking away those jobs. The contrast was unsettling. My own take is very much “wait and see and make sure to stay aware/skill up” My automation point is just that at least in my career (20 years), my workload has rarely gone down even with plenty of automation around.
loloquwowndueo 5mo ago
It’s automating the wrong thing. I want my ai to do dishes and laundry so I can write, draw, do deep cognitive work. Not for it to do cognitive work and write and draw while I don dishes and laundry.
- Unai 5mo ago
  I don't want to be rude, but I find it ironic that your comment about cognitive work is a copypasted tweet that doesn't even make sense in this context. I'm precisely talking about automating work so people can write, and draw, and whatever.

by Unai 5mo ago

grvdrm 5mo ago

But in another world doesn’t automation just produce yet another set of things to do? Perhaps i am doing this all wrong but in my world more automation has never produced less work unless I conveniently told no one and therefore filled “free” time how i wanted.

munksbeer 5mo ago
You're sending mixed messages here. Automation is going to put us all out of jobs, or automation isn't going to produce less work and so we'll still have lots to do? Personally, I think until real AGI, the current LLMs will automate a lot of tasks, but the market will adapt and humans still end up with about the same percentage of employment and wages.
- grvdrm 5mo ago
  My original post was about her comment. It seemed like she was both concerned about the presence of jobs for kids while also investing in the very thing possibly taking away those jobs. The contrast was unsettling. My own take is very much “wait and see and make sure to stay aware/skill up” My automation point is just that at least in my career (20 years), my workload has rarely gone down even with plenty of automation around.

loloquwowndueo 5mo ago

It’s automating the wrong thing. I want my ai to do dishes and laundry so I can write, draw, do deep cognitive work. Not for it to do cognitive work and write and draw while I don dishes and laundry.

Unai 5mo ago
I don't want to be rude, but I find it ironic that your comment about cognitive work is a copypasted tweet that doesn't even make sense in this context. I'm precisely talking about automating work so people can write, and draw, and whatever.