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It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix p

It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix playlists, I do not want them, and often they annoy me when the first song is one I'd click on but I don't want to have to pay attention enough to kill it before the next song plays (since you cannot disable play next in playlists...)

rob74 5mo ago
You see, you think you don't want all those things, but the algorithm knows better. Trust the algorithm!
- ChrisRR 5mo ago
  Search youtube for a thing > 5 results for your search > 10 unrelated videos that you've already watched > An endless stream of unrelated videos
rjbwork 5mo ago
It's not a product where you are the user. Your attention is the product being sold to advertisers and the videos are a harvesting/production mechanism. It is not in the interests of either YT or the advertisers to allow you to opt out of features that are proven to be lucrative for eyeballs.
- tsimionescu 5mo ago
  This line of argument would make sense if they did allow paying customers who don't see ads to disable these anti-features. They don't.
  - crustaceansoup 5mo ago
    It's still a fine argument for that case, you've just moved yourself out of it. They still have an incentive to keep you addicted to the service, which is basically the point of Shorts, "so you keep paying us money to satisfy your addiction" instead of the first case's "so you keep watching ads that pay us money to satisfy your addiction"
- charcircuit 5mo ago
  YouTube has multiple different products. YouTube as a company do not call your attention a product. There isn't a product team that is in charge of people's attention as a product.
- al_borland 5mo ago
  I’m a Premium subscriber. I don’t see ads, and YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections. It seems like the incentive for Premium subscribers should be to keep them happy, so they keep paying, and minimize how much they watch, as they’ll be a cheaper user using less bandwidth. Am I missing something?
  - runlevel1 5mo ago
    > YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections That feature benefits YouTube, too. Maybe even more than its value as a Premium feature. It makes it so that viewers can skip the ads the creator was paid to make without YouTube getting a cut of the proceeds, pushing down the value of those ads.
    - gloxkiqcza 5mo ago
      It’s crazy to me YouTube is okay with hosting ads they get no cut from in the first place.
      - tsimionescu 5mo ago
        Hasn't this always been the case? If a movie or show features product placement, a TV station playing said movie/show doesn't get any of the proceeds from that advertisement, do they?
        polshaw 5mo ago
        These are not product placements, it's as if someone wrote a movie or TV episode literally with an ad break.
        al_borland 5mo ago
        This is just the pros having more tact than amateurs, and actual writers. I do see some “influencers” that do more of a pure product placement. They just happen to be drinking a specific energy drink in every video where it sits perfectly with the label out. I see some YouTubers trying to get better at integrating the ad into the video, but most of them can’t be bothered to write and record a custom script. That said, Subway often seemed to get pretty heavy with its product placement. The last season of Chuck had a good amount of this, even what was essentially an ad read right in the middle of an episode by Big Mike. On Community they personified Subway and based a whole episode on him. In the Office they brought in Ryan Howard to say “eat fresh” over and over again, and even called out that it was for Subway to make sure it didn’t go over anyone’s head. Subway was big on sponsoring the last seasons of struggling shows with loyal fanbases, and littering the episodes with Subway product placement to the point where it became a plot point. I remember Zachary Levi (Chuck) tweeting out to ask everyone to go buy some Subway before the finale. It sounded like if Subway saw enough of a spike in buying from the sponsorship, they might fund yet another season.
- ajkjk 5mo ago
  joke's on them, I have not consciously experienced a youtube advertisement in ten years
- runevault 5mo ago
  The thing that is funny about it is at least with the mixes, it does actively make me engage less because there are videos I would click on if they were not being tied into a mix, but because they are I actively choose not to open the video and let the song play.
netcoyote 5mo ago
I so hate the videos YouTube shows me that I wrote a plugin to place a white box over videos called TubeGate [0], which I open-sourced [1]. It does keyword-based filtering so you can tell it to hide "sports", "politics", etc. [0]: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tubegate/aokfpmegeafainbhjfhkgnhlodnndpck https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tubegate/aokfpmegea... [1]: https://github.com/webcoyote/tubegate https://github.com/webcoyote/tubegate
pabs3 5mo ago
If you have uBlock Origin installed, the subreddit wiki for it has lots of options for blocking stuff on YouTube. https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/wiki/solutions/youtube https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/wiki/solutions/youtube
benterix 5mo ago
Believe me, if they tried as hard as FB, an ordinary user wouldn't stand a chance. As it is now, a single uBlock Origin action is enough to make these disappear from my YT page for good, and for all accounts.
ChrisRR 5mo ago
Youtube has added random people's text posts to my subscription feed, and it's pissing me off. They're never anything interesting or entertaining, it's always just gumpf

rob74 5mo ago

You see, you think you don't want all those things, but the algorithm knows better. Trust the algorithm!

ChrisRR 5mo ago
Search youtube for a thing > 5 results for your search > 10 unrelated videos that you've already watched > An endless stream of unrelated videos

rjbwork 5mo ago

It's not a product where you are the user. Your attention is the product being sold to advertisers and the videos are a harvesting/production mechanism. It is not in the interests of either YT or the advertisers to allow you to opt out of features that are proven to be lucrative for eyeballs.

tsimionescu 5mo ago
This line of argument would make sense if they did allow paying customers who don't see ads to disable these anti-features. They don't.
- crustaceansoup 5mo ago
  It's still a fine argument for that case, you've just moved yourself out of it. They still have an incentive to keep you addicted to the service, which is basically the point of Shorts, "so you keep paying us money to satisfy your addiction" instead of the first case's "so you keep watching ads that pay us money to satisfy your addiction"
charcircuit 5mo ago
YouTube has multiple different products. YouTube as a company do not call your attention a product. There isn't a product team that is in charge of people's attention as a product.
al_borland 5mo ago
I’m a Premium subscriber. I don’t see ads, and YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections. It seems like the incentive for Premium subscribers should be to keep them happy, so they keep paying, and minimize how much they watch, as they’ll be a cheaper user using less bandwidth. Am I missing something?
- runlevel1 5mo ago
  > YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections That feature benefits YouTube, too. Maybe even more than its value as a Premium feature. It makes it so that viewers can skip the ads the creator was paid to make without YouTube getting a cut of the proceeds, pushing down the value of those ads.
  - gloxkiqcza 5mo ago
    It’s crazy to me YouTube is okay with hosting ads they get no cut from in the first place.
    - tsimionescu 5mo ago
      Hasn't this always been the case? If a movie or show features product placement, a TV station playing said movie/show doesn't get any of the proceeds from that advertisement, do they?
      - polshaw 5mo ago
        These are not product placements, it's as if someone wrote a movie or TV episode literally with an ad break.
        al_borland 5mo ago
        This is just the pros having more tact than amateurs, and actual writers. I do see some “influencers” that do more of a pure product placement. They just happen to be drinking a specific energy drink in every video where it sits perfectly with the label out. I see some YouTubers trying to get better at integrating the ad into the video, but most of them can’t be bothered to write and record a custom script. That said, Subway often seemed to get pretty heavy with its product placement. The last season of Chuck had a good amount of this, even what was essentially an ad read right in the middle of an episode by Big Mike. On Community they personified Subway and based a whole episode on him. In the Office they brought in Ryan Howard to say “eat fresh” over and over again, and even called out that it was for Subway to make sure it didn’t go over anyone’s head. Subway was big on sponsoring the last seasons of struggling shows with loyal fanbases, and littering the episodes with Subway product placement to the point where it became a plot point. I remember Zachary Levi (Chuck) tweeting out to ask everyone to go buy some Subway before the finale. It sounded like if Subway saw enough of a spike in buying from the sponsorship, they might fund yet another season.
ajkjk 5mo ago
joke's on them, I have not consciously experienced a youtube advertisement in ten years
runevault 5mo ago
The thing that is funny about it is at least with the mixes, it does actively make me engage less because there are videos I would click on if they were not being tied into a mix, but because they are I actively choose not to open the video and let the song play.

netcoyote 5mo ago

I so hate the videos YouTube shows me that I wrote a plugin to place a white box over videos called TubeGate [0], which I open-sourced [1]. It does keyword-based filtering so you can tell it to hide "sports", "politics", etc. [0]: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tubegate/aokfpmegeafainbhjfhkgnhlodnndpck https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tubegate/aokfpmegea... [1]: https://github.com/webcoyote/tubegate https://github.com/webcoyote/tubegate

pabs3 5mo ago

If you have uBlock Origin installed, the subreddit wiki for it has lots of options for blocking stuff on YouTube. https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/wiki/solutions/youtube https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/wiki/solutions/youtube

benterix 5mo ago

Believe me, if they tried as hard as FB, an ordinary user wouldn't stand a chance. As it is now, a single uBlock Origin action is enough to make these disappear from my YT page for good, and for all accounts.

ChrisRR 5mo ago

Youtube has added random people's text posts to my subscription feed, and it's pissing me off. They're never anything interesting or entertaining, it's always just gumpf