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All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary se

All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.

pixl97 5mo ago
Yep, flood them with complaints.
bakugo 5mo ago
Sadly, it won't accomplish anything. La Liga seems to have enough political power in the country to bury all of that. Probably bribing everyone involved.
- cluckindan 5mo ago
  Corruption at that level could mean organized crime. Is there a culture of betting through illegal bookies, are they fixing matches, or ¿porque no los dos?
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    Well, I think when the organized crime is registered as proper businesses and they have the judges on their side even if the law isn't, I think we just call that "for-profit capitalism" nowadays.
  - dualvariable 5mo ago
    penalti para el real madrid!
    - cdelsolar 5mo ago
      real vardrid
  - hunterpayne 5mo ago
    No, its worse than that. If you wish, learn about FIFA and how it works. At least the mafia fears the government somewhat...FIFA doesn't.
  - hdgvhicv 5mo ago
    FIFA makes the mafia look like a bake sale committee
- deleted 5mo ago
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embedding-shape 5mo ago
I've been filing complaints since a year ago, told others to do the same too, nothing happens. There been moments I've meant to deploy fixes to issues but I cannot, because some tooling goes offline. I've claimed financial loss, claimed sanity loss and everything in-between, but I'm afraid unless something reaches the European/EU courts, Spain will continue to be in the pocket of the La Liga owners. Straight up fucking censorship with wide collateral being completely accepted in a Western country in 2026, beyond comprehension how this is allowed.
- lentil_soup 5mo ago
  how do you make claims, here: https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/ https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/? Can't find a way of doing it with Cl@ve
  - GranPC 5mo ago
    I think this is it: https://reg.redsara.es/#login https://reg.redsara.es/#login
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    I've used this: https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/reclamaciones/telefonia-e-internet https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/reclamaciones/telefoni... Used my digital certificate (which is installed in the browser), but AFAIK, you can use Cl@ve on that page above too. In the past, I've cited BOE-A-2022-10757 (https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2022-10757 https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2022-10757), done a reclamació for the repeated loss of lawful access on my connection, and a denúncia about a broader overblocking practice affecting access to lawful services. Also, supposedly, we should be able to make claims to CNMC as well, but haven't figured out how. Also of course, been complaining to my ISP every time it happens too.
- ryandrake 5mo ago
  Whenever I get a little down over how much power unelected corporations have in my country, I can at least cheer myself up a little by being thankful that something as stupid as football doesn't have enough power here to control whether or not I have internet access.
loloquwowndueo 5mo ago
It would be great if there was a webpage with clear instructions on how to do this, maybe fill out a few questions and get a printable pdf you can mail, or at least telling you how to file an online complaint. Making complaints very low friction will lead to more of those and perhaps more attention to the issue. Snail mail uses up physical space so it might get more attention, it would be hilarious to see news reports of truckloads of complaint mail being dumped in front of the whatever office.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  > It would be great if there was a webpage with clear instructions on how to do this, maybe fill out a few questions and get a printable pdf you can mail, or at least telling you how to file an online complaint. Making complaints very low friction will lead to more of those and perhaps more attention to the issue. This is a great idea, we definitively should make this happen! If people are curious on collaborating on something, reach out, email in profile (English or Spanish emails welcome!).
estebarb 5mo ago
At this point the protests should be against the matches themselves. But let's be honest: nobody cares anymore.
bluecalm 5mo ago
It's Spain man. Nothing will happen, maybe they will call their buddies in La Liga to ask what's up if the complains pile up and then will ignore all of them if they are assured everything works as expected.

All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.

pixl97 5mo ago

Yep, flood them with complaints.

bakugo 5mo ago

Sadly, it won't accomplish anything. La Liga seems to have enough political power in the country to bury all of that. Probably bribing everyone involved.

cluckindan 5mo ago
Corruption at that level could mean organized crime. Is there a culture of betting through illegal bookies, are they fixing matches, or ¿porque no los dos?
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  Well, I think when the organized crime is registered as proper businesses and they have the judges on their side even if the law isn't, I think we just call that "for-profit capitalism" nowadays.
- dualvariable 5mo ago
  penalti para el real madrid!
  - cdelsolar 5mo ago
    real vardrid
- hunterpayne 5mo ago
  No, its worse than that. If you wish, learn about FIFA and how it works. At least the mafia fears the government somewhat...FIFA doesn't.
- hdgvhicv 5mo ago
  FIFA makes the mafia look like a bake sale committee
deleted 5mo ago
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embedding-shape 5mo ago

I've been filing complaints since a year ago, told others to do the same too, nothing happens. There been moments I've meant to deploy fixes to issues but I cannot, because some tooling goes offline. I've claimed financial loss, claimed sanity loss and everything in-between, but I'm afraid unless something reaches the European/EU courts, Spain will continue to be in the pocket of the La Liga owners. Straight up fucking censorship with wide collateral being completely accepted in a Western country in 2026, beyond comprehension how this is allowed.

lentil_soup 5mo ago
how do you make claims, here: https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/ https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/? Can't find a way of doing it with Cl@ve
- GranPC 5mo ago
  I think this is it: https://reg.redsara.es/#login https://reg.redsara.es/#login
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  I've used this: https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/reclamaciones/telefonia-e-internet https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/reclamaciones/telefoni... Used my digital certificate (which is installed in the browser), but AFAIK, you can use Cl@ve on that page above too. In the past, I've cited BOE-A-2022-10757 (https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2022-10757 https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2022-10757), done a reclamació for the repeated loss of lawful access on my connection, and a denúncia about a broader overblocking practice affecting access to lawful services. Also, supposedly, we should be able to make claims to CNMC as well, but haven't figured out how. Also of course, been complaining to my ISP every time it happens too.
ryandrake 5mo ago
Whenever I get a little down over how much power unelected corporations have in my country, I can at least cheer myself up a little by being thankful that something as stupid as football doesn't have enough power here to control whether or not I have internet access.

loloquwowndueo 5mo ago

It would be great if there was a webpage with clear instructions on how to do this, maybe fill out a few questions and get a printable pdf you can mail, or at least telling you how to file an online complaint. Making complaints very low friction will lead to more of those and perhaps more attention to the issue. Snail mail uses up physical space so it might get more attention, it would be hilarious to see news reports of truckloads of complaint mail being dumped in front of the whatever office.

embedding-shape 5mo ago
> It would be great if there was a webpage with clear instructions on how to do this, maybe fill out a few questions and get a printable pdf you can mail, or at least telling you how to file an online complaint. Making complaints very low friction will lead to more of those and perhaps more attention to the issue. This is a great idea, we definitively should make this happen! If people are curious on collaborating on something, reach out, email in profile (English or Spanish emails welcome!).

estebarb 5mo ago

At this point the protests should be against the matches themselves. But let's be honest: nobody cares anymore.

bluecalm 5mo ago

It's Spain man. Nothing will happen, maybe they will call their buddies in La Liga to ask what's up if the complains pile up and then will ignore all of them if they are assured everything works as expected.