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Gaza and Lebanon were not part of the cease fire agreement. Besides, After the first round of hostilities the ceasefire agreement reached between Israel and Leb

Gaza and Lebanon were not part of the cease fire agreement. Besides, After the first round of hostilities the ceasefire agreement reached between Israel and Lebanon included the disarmament of Hezbullah, and sending the Lebanese army to take the south under control. None of which was done, so Israel had to do it by itself

4gotunameagain 5mo ago
Like you I do not have a direct line with the diplomats of the involved countries, but every major news outlet was including Lebanon in the agreement. What Israel is doing by itself is occupying more land and vilifying the concept of humanity, not "taking the south under control". Let me remind you that Hezbollah has founded as a direct reply to the '82 invasion of Lebanon by Israel. The whole source of pain, misery and instability in the region is the colony of Israel, that was place there by the brits.
- Protostome 5mo ago
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  - 4gotunameagain 5mo ago
    Why would anyone in their right mind next to Israel disarm ? So they can have their land occupied by ultra orthodox jew nazis ? And on the contrary, the major news outlets are infested by israeli propaganda. Letting israel exist ? Does israel leave Gaza exist ? Or the west bank ? Or Syria, or Lebanon ? Or any of those people that have been living there for thousands of years, not just 80 ?
    - Protostome 5mo ago
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      - phs318u 5mo ago
        > If all parties decide to lay down their weapons there would be peace tomorrow. Which is why there will never be peace - tomorrow or any other day - because Israel wants everyone else to disarm, excluding themselves. How else are they going to keep expanding their settlements and keep the Palestinians in increasingly fragmented and shrinking bantustans?
        Protostome 5mo ago
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        4gotunameagain 5mo ago
        And the neighbouring states want the terrorist state of Israel to disarm and stop expanding and occupying territories. Why is Israel not doing that, if they want peace so much ?
        Protostome 5mo ago
        There's nothing Israelis want more than give up their military. but when countries like Iran vow to "wipe israel off the map" and Hamas states in its covenant to annhilate all jews, what sane country would give up its army? Second, Israel does not expand. On the contrary - Israel returned the Sinai Desert which is a territory x3 times its size back to Egypt for peace.
        phs318u 5mo ago
        > There's nothing Israelis want more than give up their military. Watch this and tell me that your statement still holds true. Israel has descended to the level of the worst of its enemies. There is no moral high ground left. https://substack.com/@teeashby/note/p-193468370 https://substack.com/@teeashby/note/p-193468370
  - Hikikomori 5mo ago
    Hezbollah attacks generally come after Israel does something.
- FunnyUsername 5mo ago
  > every major news outlet was including Lebanon in the agreement Israel never said anything about having accepted an agreement, and in fact stated the opposite. The Pakistani mediator can't just declare Israel part of an agreement without its, well, agreement. > Hezbollah has founded as a direct reply to the '82 invasion of Lebanon by Israel Which was a rather necessary response to the PLO attacking Israel from Lebanon. Or what would you have expected Israel to do instead?
cassianoleal 5mo ago
> With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. PM of Pakistan announced without a doubt after the agreement that Lebanon "and elsewhere" were included. "Western" media seemed to gloss over this "small detail". https://www.livemint.com/news/world/pakistan-pm-shehbaz-sharif-posts-for-first-time-after-brokering-ceasefire-check-his-full-tweet-11775606743442.html https://www.livemint.com/news/world/pakistan-pm-shehbaz-shar... https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/4/8/how-pakistan-managed-to-get-the-us-and-iran-to-a-ceasefire https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/4/8/how-pakistan-man...
- FunnyUsername 5mo ago
  Israel hadn't agreed to anything yet though. There was apparently some confusion in the Pakistani mediation. Vance called it a "legitimate misunderstanding".
  - queenkjuul 5mo ago
    Right, because Vance is a liar, happily lying on behalf of his boss
    - Protostome 5mo ago
      Maybe, doing the actual negotiations, not just reporting on it from a known position
- Protostome 5mo ago
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  - 4a5Askl 5mo ago
    The Qatari owned Al Jazeera is not particularly pro Iran right now. Qatar is Iran's enemy. The Pakistani Prime Minister's statement is literally on Twitter: https://xcancel.com/CMShehbaz/status/2041665043423752651 https://xcancel.com/CMShehbaz/status/2041665043423752651

4gotunameagain 5mo ago

Like you I do not have a direct line with the diplomats of the involved countries, but every major news outlet was including Lebanon in the agreement. What Israel is doing by itself is occupying more land and vilifying the concept of humanity, not "taking the south under control". Let me remind you that Hezbollah has founded as a direct reply to the '82 invasion of Lebanon by Israel. The whole source of pain, misery and instability in the region is the colony of Israel, that was place there by the brits.

Protostome 5mo ago
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- 4gotunameagain 5mo ago
  Why would anyone in their right mind next to Israel disarm ? So they can have their land occupied by ultra orthodox jew nazis ? And on the contrary, the major news outlets are infested by israeli propaganda. Letting israel exist ? Does israel leave Gaza exist ? Or the west bank ? Or Syria, or Lebanon ? Or any of those people that have been living there for thousands of years, not just 80 ?
  - Protostome 5mo ago
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    - phs318u 5mo ago
      > If all parties decide to lay down their weapons there would be peace tomorrow. Which is why there will never be peace - tomorrow or any other day - because Israel wants everyone else to disarm, excluding themselves. How else are they going to keep expanding their settlements and keep the Palestinians in increasingly fragmented and shrinking bantustans?
      - Protostome 5mo ago
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        4gotunameagain 5mo ago
        And the neighbouring states want the terrorist state of Israel to disarm and stop expanding and occupying territories. Why is Israel not doing that, if they want peace so much ?
        Protostome 5mo ago
        There's nothing Israelis want more than give up their military. but when countries like Iran vow to "wipe israel off the map" and Hamas states in its covenant to annhilate all jews, what sane country would give up its army? Second, Israel does not expand. On the contrary - Israel returned the Sinai Desert which is a territory x3 times its size back to Egypt for peace.
        phs318u 5mo ago
        > There's nothing Israelis want more than give up their military. Watch this and tell me that your statement still holds true. Israel has descended to the level of the worst of its enemies. There is no moral high ground left. https://substack.com/@teeashby/note/p-193468370 https://substack.com/@teeashby/note/p-193468370
- Hikikomori 5mo ago
  Hezbollah attacks generally come after Israel does something.
FunnyUsername 5mo ago
> every major news outlet was including Lebanon in the agreement Israel never said anything about having accepted an agreement, and in fact stated the opposite. The Pakistani mediator can't just declare Israel part of an agreement without its, well, agreement. > Hezbollah has founded as a direct reply to the '82 invasion of Lebanon by Israel Which was a rather necessary response to the PLO attacking Israel from Lebanon. Or what would you have expected Israel to do instead?

cassianoleal 5mo ago

> With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. PM of Pakistan announced without a doubt after the agreement that Lebanon "and elsewhere" were included. "Western" media seemed to gloss over this "small detail". https://www.livemint.com/news/world/pakistan-pm-shehbaz-sharif-posts-for-first-time-after-brokering-ceasefire-check-his-full-tweet-11775606743442.html https://www.livemint.com/news/world/pakistan-pm-shehbaz-shar... https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/4/8/how-pakistan-managed-to-get-the-us-and-iran-to-a-ceasefire https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/4/8/how-pakistan-man...

FunnyUsername 5mo ago
Israel hadn't agreed to anything yet though. There was apparently some confusion in the Pakistani mediation. Vance called it a "legitimate misunderstanding".
- queenkjuul 5mo ago
  Right, because Vance is a liar, happily lying on behalf of his boss
  - Protostome 5mo ago
    Maybe, doing the actual negotiations, not just reporting on it from a known position
Protostome 5mo ago
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- 4a5Askl 5mo ago
  The Qatari owned Al Jazeera is not particularly pro Iran right now. Qatar is Iran's enemy. The Pakistani Prime Minister's statement is literally on Twitter: https://xcancel.com/CMShehbaz/status/2041665043423752651 https://xcancel.com/CMShehbaz/status/2041665043423752651