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lol, Microslop shooting themselves in the foot once again. At this point people will move to MacOS or Linux because so much damage to their brand can’t simply

lol, Microslop shooting themselves in the foot once again. At this point people will move to MacOS or Linux because so much damage to their brand can’t simply be ignored anymore.

ta988 5mo ago
Apple has done the exact same with its iphone app store, lots of companies got shut down because of their app not beeing available anymore with no explanation. The problem is with exclusive app stores.
- freeAgent 5mo ago
  Apple requires notorization for applications outside their store too.
- zarzavat 5mo ago
  I don't often praise Apple, but their kernel hardening on macOS has been in the form of a deliberate, decades-long plan to move kernel extensions to userspace by providing the appropriate SDKs. Meanwhile Microsoft is running around like a headless chicken.
patates 5mo ago
Writing this from a corporate win11 computer, the whole thing is so laggy, it's unbelievable. Last year, I had revived my old desktop from 2007 with an intel Q6600, windows xp and a clicky dying HDD, and that thing flied compared to this. Dear Microsoft and its partners (Especially DELL!), what the hell happened?!
- IcePic 5mo ago
  In some sense, "you did". Your actions, intentional and direct or not, allowed for one more sale of Win11 and an accompanying sad Dell computer, giving them the signal (however weak from you as one single individual) that whatever crap they have been doing up to now, still is a good choice in order to sell one of those combinations.
  - patates 5mo ago
    In some sense, "you also did". You couldn't argue the case on the internet better, and convince enough people not to give the signal that it's okay. We are all guilty :)
- user2722 5mo ago
  [flagged]
- fodkodrasz 5mo ago
  Corporate Windows == CrowdStrike, Sentinel One, or other US Government in disguise Malware.
- pjmlp 5mo ago
  It would be the same with Apple or anything Linux, due to the shitty compliance software that had to be installed regardless of the operating system.
this_user 5mo ago
I mean, we have been saying that exact thing for close to 30 years at this point. Yet, they are still around, they are still deeply embedded in most businesses, and no matter how much they screw up, it just keeps going.
palata 5mo ago
> At this point people will move to I think most people just don't care about their computer. Most people just use whatever they are told to use at work.
- croes 5mo ago
  Most people are just accustomed to pain because they don’t know it could be different
  - vaylian 5mo ago
    This. Most people will think that using a different system will just be a different type of pain.
  - palata 5mo ago
    I have never had a successful experience getting someone to try something better, but different. In my experience, people fight for the enshittification they know. Asking someone to install Signal is already the end of the world, trying it sounds like starting a PhD. I'm not even talking about thinking about using it as a replacement for WhatsApp. Really, people just don't care. Which I find sad, of course.
huijzer 5mo ago
And also consider moving some of your repos to Forgejo. I’m running it for more than a year now and it is by far my favorite service. Way faster and essential features do not require monthly payment (branch protection for example). It can easily run on a Raspberry Pi 4 1 GB RAM. Use Docker Compose and put Caddy in front of it for HTTPS. For backups the easy way is to just git pull your repos via cron on some remote systems. Or use syncthing to also move the server configs over. For the runner, 1 GB RPi 4 should be fine for many situations. It can compile and run many Rust/Python tests fine or build static sites. You could also setup an old x86 next to it (this is essentially what GitHub Runners are too: old x86 cpu’s).
- Pooge 5mo ago
  You may want to have a look at docker-volume-backup[1]. I personally use it. [1]: https://github.com/offen/docker-volume-backup/ https://github.com/offen/docker-volume-backup/
  - huijzer 5mo ago
    I avoid docker volumes whenever possible since I find them such a hassle
pjmlp 5mo ago
No they won't, because Apple is out of reach for their pockets, and most OEMs still don't sell Linux powered devices on the shops people go to.
- tock 5mo ago
  The Neo changes things. Only $600.
  - pjmlp 5mo ago
    It is 800 euros for 8 GB device, no thanks, especially in coutries where many dream of getting 1000 euros a month.
    - littlecranky67 5mo ago
      Dozens of youtube video reviews showing that the 8GB is not really a limitation for what most people need to do with the laptop. Heck I saw a review where the guy played minecraft on it with 20 rather hefty tabs in safari open, without any stuttering. So what is the actual limitation of a neo, and how to they apply to users in that price class?
      - pjmlp 5mo ago
        How much Electron crap did they tested with?
        tock 5mo ago
        It's surprisingly fine. Not the fastest though.
    - stackedinserter 5mo ago
      Maybe you don't need a laptop then, if your dream is 1000eur.
      - 5mo ago
raincole 5mo ago
People: Windows is too centralized. Let's move to MacOS. Don't know who those people are or if they exist, but not the brightest ones for sure.
Asmod4n 5mo ago
Have gone back to Linux after 23 years, Ive only had to go to the console once to make all hardware of my framework 12 work since i chose to use a non supported distro. That's definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the old times, where getting wifi to work was a major hassle, anyone remember ndiswrapper? ouch.

lol, Microslop shooting themselves in the foot once again. At this point people will move to MacOS or Linux because so much damage to their brand can’t simply be ignored anymore.

ta988 5mo ago

Apple has done the exact same with its iphone app store, lots of companies got shut down because of their app not beeing available anymore with no explanation. The problem is with exclusive app stores.

freeAgent 5mo ago
Apple requires notorization for applications outside their store too.
zarzavat 5mo ago
I don't often praise Apple, but their kernel hardening on macOS has been in the form of a deliberate, decades-long plan to move kernel extensions to userspace by providing the appropriate SDKs. Meanwhile Microsoft is running around like a headless chicken.

patates 5mo ago

Writing this from a corporate win11 computer, the whole thing is so laggy, it's unbelievable. Last year, I had revived my old desktop from 2007 with an intel Q6600, windows xp and a clicky dying HDD, and that thing flied compared to this. Dear Microsoft and its partners (Especially DELL!), what the hell happened?!

IcePic 5mo ago
In some sense, "you did". Your actions, intentional and direct or not, allowed for one more sale of Win11 and an accompanying sad Dell computer, giving them the signal (however weak from you as one single individual) that whatever crap they have been doing up to now, still is a good choice in order to sell one of those combinations.
- patates 5mo ago
  In some sense, "you also did". You couldn't argue the case on the internet better, and convince enough people not to give the signal that it's okay. We are all guilty :)
user2722 5mo ago
[flagged]
fodkodrasz 5mo ago
Corporate Windows == CrowdStrike, Sentinel One, or other US Government in disguise Malware.
pjmlp 5mo ago
It would be the same with Apple or anything Linux, due to the shitty compliance software that had to be installed regardless of the operating system.

this_user 5mo ago

I mean, we have been saying that exact thing for close to 30 years at this point. Yet, they are still around, they are still deeply embedded in most businesses, and no matter how much they screw up, it just keeps going.

palata 5mo ago

> At this point people will move to I think most people just don't care about their computer. Most people just use whatever they are told to use at work.

croes 5mo ago
Most people are just accustomed to pain because they don’t know it could be different
- vaylian 5mo ago
  This. Most people will think that using a different system will just be a different type of pain.
- palata 5mo ago
  I have never had a successful experience getting someone to try something better, but different. In my experience, people fight for the enshittification they know. Asking someone to install Signal is already the end of the world, trying it sounds like starting a PhD. I'm not even talking about thinking about using it as a replacement for WhatsApp. Really, people just don't care. Which I find sad, of course.

huijzer 5mo ago

And also consider moving some of your repos to Forgejo. I’m running it for more than a year now and it is by far my favorite service. Way faster and essential features do not require monthly payment (branch protection for example). It can easily run on a Raspberry Pi 4 1 GB RAM. Use Docker Compose and put Caddy in front of it for HTTPS. For backups the easy way is to just git pull your repos via cron on some remote systems. Or use syncthing to also move the server configs over. For the runner, 1 GB RPi 4 should be fine for many situations. It can compile and run many Rust/Python tests fine or build static sites. You could also setup an old x86 next to it (this is essentially what GitHub Runners are too: old x86 cpu’s).

Pooge 5mo ago
You may want to have a look at docker-volume-backup[1]. I personally use it. [1]: https://github.com/offen/docker-volume-backup/ https://github.com/offen/docker-volume-backup/
- huijzer 5mo ago
  I avoid docker volumes whenever possible since I find them such a hassle

pjmlp 5mo ago

No they won't, because Apple is out of reach for their pockets, and most OEMs still don't sell Linux powered devices on the shops people go to.

tock 5mo ago
The Neo changes things. Only $600.
- pjmlp 5mo ago
  It is 800 euros for 8 GB device, no thanks, especially in coutries where many dream of getting 1000 euros a month.
  - littlecranky67 5mo ago
    Dozens of youtube video reviews showing that the 8GB is not really a limitation for what most people need to do with the laptop. Heck I saw a review where the guy played minecraft on it with 20 rather hefty tabs in safari open, without any stuttering. So what is the actual limitation of a neo, and how to they apply to users in that price class?
    - pjmlp 5mo ago
      How much Electron crap did they tested with?
      - tock 5mo ago
        It's surprisingly fine. Not the fastest though.
  - stackedinserter 5mo ago
    Maybe you don't need a laptop then, if your dream is 1000eur.
    - 5mo ago

raincole 5mo ago

People: Windows is too centralized. Let's move to MacOS. Don't know who those people are or if they exist, but not the brightest ones for sure.

Asmod4n 5mo ago

Have gone back to Linux after 23 years, Ive only had to go to the console once to make all hardware of my framework 12 work since i chose to use a non supported distro. That's definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the old times, where getting wifi to work was a major hassle, anyone remember ndiswrapper? ouch.