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TBH, it looks to me as a trick to enable extra usage by baiting me with $20 credit by toggling on the feature that lets me burn another $20 without realizing it

by 2bluesc 6mo ago

TBH, it looks to me as a trick to enable extra usage by baiting me with $20 credit by toggling on the feature that lets me burn another $20 without realizing it. Toggling it again to turn it off immediately after (which I assume most people will miss) seems to guard against this.

throwuxiytayq 6mo ago
By contrast, OpenAI simply multiplied your subscription usage by 0.5x for the past month. For all the shit they’re rightfully getting, Codex is so nice it’s actually weird.
- pxc 6mo ago
  And you can also use the long context version on their cheaper plans, where as with Anthropic it's only available to enterprise and Max customers
- DetroitThrow 6mo ago
  It eats more tokens than before, but is still more token efficient than Claude Code.
- outside1234 6mo ago
  OpenAI is in deep trouble and are doing everything they can to get back in the game. If they get back in, they will monetize.
furyofantares 6mo ago
Auto-reload is off by default, is it not? As in, what you're toggling on is "use my extra usage balance" not "automatically spend money by adding to my extra usage balance".
- 2bluesc 6mo ago
  I read it as they'll invoice me up to $20. Not sure?
  - furyofantares 6mo ago
    I don't believe so. I'll explain how I think it works. [x] Turn on extra usage to keep using Claude if you hit a limit. ^^^ This toggles whether it will automatically spend from your pre-paid balance when you hit limits. $20 Monthly spend limit ^^^ I'm not actually sure which this toggles, but I think it is either a maximum amount to reload per month, OR I think it is a maximum amount of your balance to spend per month. I think it's how much to auto-reload but it is a confusing setting. Auto-reload off ^^^ This toggles whether it auto-reloads. It accepts a trigger balance and how much to top it off to. This setting shows the following text, which is You agree that Anthropic will charge the card you have on file in the amount above on a recurring basis whenever your balance reaches the amount indicated. To cancel, turn off auto-reload.
gre 6mo ago
Yes it works exactly like that. Beware
joecot 6mo ago
That's not the purpose of the trick. The purpose is to soften the blow for turning off support for OpenClaw and other third party connectors. Now to use OpenClaw et all you'll have to pay at extra usage pricing, it won't count against your normal quota. I'd actually be happy with this if they turned OpenCode support back on.

by 2bluesc 6mo ago

throwuxiytayq 6mo ago

By contrast, OpenAI simply multiplied your subscription usage by 0.5x for the past month. For all the shit they’re rightfully getting, Codex is so nice it’s actually weird.

pxc 6mo ago
And you can also use the long context version on their cheaper plans, where as with Anthropic it's only available to enterprise and Max customers
DetroitThrow 6mo ago
It eats more tokens than before, but is still more token efficient than Claude Code.
outside1234 6mo ago
OpenAI is in deep trouble and are doing everything they can to get back in the game. If they get back in, they will monetize.

furyofantares 6mo ago

Auto-reload is off by default, is it not? As in, what you're toggling on is "use my extra usage balance" not "automatically spend money by adding to my extra usage balance".

2bluesc 6mo ago
I read it as they'll invoice me up to $20. Not sure?
- furyofantares 6mo ago
  I don't believe so. I'll explain how I think it works. [x] Turn on extra usage to keep using Claude if you hit a limit. ^^^ This toggles whether it will automatically spend from your pre-paid balance when you hit limits. $20 Monthly spend limit ^^^ I'm not actually sure which this toggles, but I think it is either a maximum amount to reload per month, OR I think it is a maximum amount of your balance to spend per month. I think it's how much to auto-reload but it is a confusing setting. Auto-reload off ^^^ This toggles whether it auto-reloads. It accepts a trigger balance and how much to top it off to. This setting shows the following text, which is You agree that Anthropic will charge the card you have on file in the amount above on a recurring basis whenever your balance reaches the amount indicated. To cancel, turn off auto-reload.

gre 6mo ago

Yes it works exactly like that. Beware

joecot 6mo ago

That's not the purpose of the trick. The purpose is to soften the blow for turning off support for OpenClaw and other third party connectors. Now to use OpenClaw et all you'll have to pay at extra usage pricing, it won't count against your normal quota. I'd actually be happy with this if they turned OpenCode support back on.