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There are issues with the chat template right now[0], so tool calling does not work reliably[1]. Every time people try to rush to judge open models on launch d
by coder543 6mo ago
There are issues with the chat template right now[0], so tool calling does not work reliably[1].
Every time people try to rush to judge open models on launch day... it never goes well. There are ~always bugs on launch day.
[0]: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/21326 https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/21326
[1]: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/issues/21316 https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/issues/21316
- emidoots 6mo agowas just merged
- coder543 6mo agoIt was just an example of a bug, not that it was the only bug. I’ve personally reported at least one other for Gemma 4 on llama.cpp already. In a few days, I imagine that Gemma 4 support should be in better shape.
- stavros 6mo agoWhat causes these? Given how simple the LLM interface is (just completion), why don't teams make a simple, standardized template available with their model release so the inference engine can just read it and work properly? Can someone explain the difficulty with that?
- Yukonv 6mo agoThe model does have the format specified but there is no _one_ standard. For this model it’s defined in the [ tokenizer_config.json [0]. As for llama.cpp they seem to be using a more type safe approach to reading the arguments. [0] https://huggingface.co/google/gemma-4-31B-it/blob/main/tokenizer_config.json#L37 https://huggingface.co/google/gemma-4-31B-it/blob/main/token...
- stavros 6mo agoHm, but surely there will be converters for such simple formats? I'm confused as to how there can be calling bugs when the model already includes the template.