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It really seems like they are doing a lot to appease the tiny minority of us power users, adb load unaffected, one time toggle in settings to opt out, no change
by TGower 6mo ago
It really seems like they are doing a lot to appease the tiny minority of us power users, adb load unaffected, one time toggle in settings to opt out, no change to alternative app stores as long as the apk was built by a verified developer. Crazy how harsh the sentiment is here, there are real people being harmed by scam apps intercepting sms one time codes and this will reduce the rate of that happening. It's not like we can't sideload anymore, though a lot of comments here seem to be implying otherwise.
- hnburnsy 6mo agoBecause this is a glide path to what they really want, look at Apple and running unsigned apps on your Mac, how it started, simple right click, how is it going, near impossible.
- selectively 6mo agoHow it started: almost everything is signed, even pirated apps How it's going: almost everything is signed, even pirated apps. ????
- kcb 6mo agoBecause the initial announcement included none of that... it wasn't addressed at all until the harsh sentiment.
- TGower 6mo agoThen shouldn't we celebrate the victory, drop it, and move on?
- fc417fc802 6mo agoIt still hasn't been addressed. They walked back half of their wholly unreasonable position in an attempt to legitimize the other half.
- brnt 6mo agoThose scam apps largely are installed from the Play store. Let them fix that first.
- selectively 6mo agoYour post is an outright lie.
- TGower 6mo agoReally, there are apps that will intercept and exfiltrate your bank one time code sms that are just sitting on the play store? First I'm hearing of this, what's the name of one?
- xigoi 6mo agoMany of the most popular apps on the Play Store will monitor all activity on your device and send it to a for-profit company.
- microtonal 6mo agoThe pre-installed privileged services will monitory all activity on your device and send it to a for-profit company.
- circuit10 6mo agoBut that "tiny minority" are the people developing apps, which all their other users use... if you drive away devs from wanting to develop on your platform that's not going to go well for you (of course, they may still be forced to develop for Android if they want a wide audience, but you're driving away hobbyists with new ideas)
- TGower 6mo agoI still don't get how they are driving away devs. It's super easy for us to click the setting. If I urgently need to test my app during the 24 hour waiting period, I can just adb it on my device. Based on the reaction here, it's obvious I'm missing something here, but I just don't see any real reason devs are feeling like they are being driven away. It's hardly more of an inconvenience than enabling developer mode, and I feel like we all get why they hide the developer settings menu behind that.
- iggldiggl 6mo agoThe other factor would be driving away potential users – even when giving away an app for free, some people might derive satisfaction from knowing that other people find it useful and are actually using it, too.
- fc417fc802 6mo ago> intercepting sms one time codes Crazy idea, maybe they shouldn't be using those then. Maybe they should use email? Or god forbid a TOTP app. Or perhaps webauthn via the platform provided authenticator. They very clearly aren't behaving in good faith. That's why the harsh sentiment.