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Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers? "US Republicans consider health care cuts to fund Iran war" - https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-republicans-

by inaros 6mo ago

Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers? "US Republicans consider health care cuts to fund Iran war" - https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-republicans-consider-health-care-cuts-to-fund-iran-war-axios-reports/3885415 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-republicans-consider-he... A reminder Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university...and voted yesterday to give $255 million to ultra-Orthodox programs and institutions, including yeshivas...that actually refuse to engage in military conscription... https://www.timesofisrael.com/opposition-mks-voted-to-allocate-nis-800-million-for-haredi-schools-how-did-it-happen/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/opposition-mks-voted-to-alloca...

myth_drannon 6mo ago
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- inaros 6mo ago
  Ah yes...the criticizing Israel is antisemitic argument... "I stand behind the Israeli soldiers; whether there are children or women, it doesn't matter to me if there is damage. There are no innocent civilians in Jenin" - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/
  - myth_drannon 6mo ago
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    - constantius 6mo ago
      You're doing it again, conflating antisemitism and criticism of Israel, I flagged your comments.
    - cherry_tree 6mo ago
      Boiling legitimate criticism of the USA funding of Israel to “of course the Jews stole it” is intellectually dishonest.
      - myth_drannon 6mo ago
        It would have been a valid criticism if it mentioned US aid to Ukraine (which is far larger), or aid to Egypt or the aid by maintaining military bases in South Korea, Japan, Europe. But nothing of that was mentioned, only the Jewish state. Hence it is a good ol' antisemitism.
        dttze 6mo ago
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- ohhman11 6mo ago
  There would be no public education nor healthcare in Israel without US money.
  - myth_drannon 6mo ago
    Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever, even going back when US had no colored and jews signs in their public spaces.
    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      > Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever… This also applies to US aid.
      - myth_drannon 6mo ago
        Nope, Israel had it much earlier.
        ceejayoz 6mo ago
        Israel, the nation state, came into being in 1948, with the explicit financial and military aid of the United States to do so. It has had American support since within hours of its founding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_... "At the end of 1948, 53% of Israel's Jewish population was insured, about 80% of them by Clalit, with a few small health funds insuring the remainder. In the following years, Israel's healthcare system was expanded, and within a decade, about 90% were insured." Universal healthcare became a thing in 1995, it seems.
        tkah 6mo ago
        To be fair here, what people often overlook by using Israel's current government as a reference point is that during the Kibbutz era Israel was decidedly left-wing. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money.
ceejayoz 6mo ago
> Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers? I don't think you have to wait for 2026 on that one.
algo_trader 6mo ago
> Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university This is both wrong and off topic. Israel health care is funded by a 5% additional income tax tier. non working people pay a significant fixed annual fee. University is not free. $5K for the public institutions - which have limited admissions. $10K for many of the spill over private institutions. Now - about those space lasers ....
- Synaesthesia 6mo ago
  5k is almost free. And yes you pay tax to find universities. Makes sense. Paying full tuition in the USA is like paying a tax, only worse, it's a lot more.
  - etiennebausson 6mo ago
    As disgusted as I am with Israel's action over the last 80 years, put the blame where it belong. 5k is far from nothing, it is more than enough in any country than subsidize higher education. Which is most of the world at this point.
    - Synaesthesia 6mo ago
      I mean have you seen what US colleges cost?
      - etiennebausson 6mo ago
        The US is very much an outlier. This give a very different picture: https://www.studyineurope.eu/tuition-fees/ https://www.studyineurope.eu/tuition-fees/
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salemh 6mo ago
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by inaros 6mo ago

myth_drannon 6mo ago

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inaros 6mo ago
Ah yes...the criticizing Israel is antisemitic argument... "I stand behind the Israeli soldiers; whether there are children or women, it doesn't matter to me if there is damage. There are no innocent civilians in Jenin" - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/
- myth_drannon 6mo ago
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  - constantius 6mo ago
    You're doing it again, conflating antisemitism and criticism of Israel, I flagged your comments.
  - cherry_tree 6mo ago
    Boiling legitimate criticism of the USA funding of Israel to “of course the Jews stole it” is intellectually dishonest.
    - myth_drannon 6mo ago
      It would have been a valid criticism if it mentioned US aid to Ukraine (which is far larger), or aid to Egypt or the aid by maintaining military bases in South Korea, Japan, Europe. But nothing of that was mentioned, only the Jewish state. Hence it is a good ol' antisemitism.
      - dttze 6mo ago
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ohhman11 6mo ago
There would be no public education nor healthcare in Israel without US money.
- myth_drannon 6mo ago
  Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever, even going back when US had no colored and jews signs in their public spaces.
  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    > Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever… This also applies to US aid.
    - myth_drannon 6mo ago
      Nope, Israel had it much earlier.
      - ceejayoz 6mo ago
        Israel, the nation state, came into being in 1948, with the explicit financial and military aid of the United States to do so. It has had American support since within hours of its founding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_... "At the end of 1948, 53% of Israel's Jewish population was insured, about 80% of them by Clalit, with a few small health funds insuring the remainder. In the following years, Israel's healthcare system was expanded, and within a decade, about 90% were insured." Universal healthcare became a thing in 1995, it seems.
        tkah 6mo ago
        To be fair here, what people often overlook by using Israel's current government as a reference point is that during the Kibbutz era Israel was decidedly left-wing. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money.

ceejayoz 6mo ago

> Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers? I don't think you have to wait for 2026 on that one.

algo_trader 6mo ago

> Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university This is both wrong and off topic. Israel health care is funded by a 5% additional income tax tier. non working people pay a significant fixed annual fee. University is not free. $5K for the public institutions - which have limited admissions. $10K for many of the spill over private institutions. Now - about those space lasers ....

Synaesthesia 6mo ago
5k is almost free. And yes you pay tax to find universities. Makes sense. Paying full tuition in the USA is like paying a tax, only worse, it's a lot more.
- etiennebausson 6mo ago
  As disgusted as I am with Israel's action over the last 80 years, put the blame where it belong. 5k is far from nothing, it is more than enough in any country than subsidize higher education. Which is most of the world at this point.
  - Synaesthesia 6mo ago
    I mean have you seen what US colleges cost?
    - etiennebausson 6mo ago
      The US is very much an outlier. This give a very different picture: https://www.studyineurope.eu/tuition-fees/ https://www.studyineurope.eu/tuition-fees/
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salemh 6mo ago

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