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This looks like slop? The README is full of emojis and kind of incoherent, there are no implementation details, there claims to be a Metal backend that doesn't

by skrrtww 6mo ago

This looks like slop? The README is full of emojis and kind of incoherent, there are no implementation details, there claims to be a Metal backend that doesn't seem to exist, etc. The dependency list is also...something: https://github.com/J-x-Z/cocoa-way/tree/main/vendor https://github.com/J-x-Z/cocoa-way/tree/main/vendor

jhatemyjob 6mo ago
This is definitely not worth using. It doesn't even say what hypervisor its using. Is it using QEMU? Docker? Podman? Lima? Colima? And also this chart is super weird: Solution Latency HiDPI Native Integration Setup Complexity Cocoa-Way Low Yes Native windows Easy XQuartz High Partial X11 quirks Medium VNC High No Full screen Medium VM GUI High Partial Separate window Complex A standard VM will always be the easiest to set up by far. And latency should be the same across all 4. I mean after all it's a VM running on your local machine. Honestly I don't even know what it means when it says "Latency". I also looked at some of the code and it's using OpenGL 3.3 Core which is... super old. But it makes sense in the context of this being LLM-generated since most of its training data is probably OpenGL 3.3 Core code.... Overall this project is very strange. It makes me feel more confident in my skills, AI isn't all that great. It's all hype. You can get to the frontpage of HN. And if you're Peter Steinberger you can get acquired by OpenAI for a billion dollars. But that's about it. The code isn't getting any better. This reminds me of that C-compiler-in-Rust publicity stunt by Anthropic. There's no substance. It's just a headline.
- dmytrish 6mo ago
  I agree with most of your points, but why would a Wayland compositor need a hypervisor at all?
- lights0123 6mo ago
  While I agree with the rest of your comment, they do mention they use OrbStack as their hypervisor in their demo video.
  - jhatemyjob 6mo ago
    Gotcha thanks for that info. Yeah that's insane. You have to read the description of a YouTube video to understand what a project on Github is doing. There is no architecture here.
    - c-hendricks 6mo ago
      Right under the the link to the video the README states: > True protocol portability: Cocoa-Way rendering Linux apps from OrbStack via Unix sockets. And it's been there for at least two months.
      - jhatemyjob 6mo ago
        Good eye.
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- OJFord 6mo ago
  > It doesn't even say what hypervisor its using. Is it using QEMU? Docker? Podman? Lima? Colima? I don't think it is, you use whatever you want and then run this to connect to Wayland on it? It could even be a separate machine, Linux host, aiui.
  - jhatemyjob 6mo ago
    You are correct. I jumped the gun there, a little bit.

by skrrtww 6mo ago

jhatemyjob 6mo ago

This is definitely not worth using. It doesn't even say what hypervisor its using. Is it using QEMU? Docker? Podman? Lima? Colima? And also this chart is super weird: Solution Latency HiDPI Native Integration Setup Complexity Cocoa-Way Low Yes Native windows Easy XQuartz High Partial X11 quirks Medium VNC High No Full screen Medium VM GUI High Partial Separate window Complex A standard VM will always be the easiest to set up by far. And latency should be the same across all 4. I mean after all it's a VM running on your local machine. Honestly I don't even know what it means when it says "Latency". I also looked at some of the code and it's using OpenGL 3.3 Core which is... super old. But it makes sense in the context of this being LLM-generated since most of its training data is probably OpenGL 3.3 Core code.... Overall this project is very strange. It makes me feel more confident in my skills, AI isn't all that great. It's all hype. You can get to the frontpage of HN. And if you're Peter Steinberger you can get acquired by OpenAI for a billion dollars. But that's about it. The code isn't getting any better. This reminds me of that C-compiler-in-Rust publicity stunt by Anthropic. There's no substance. It's just a headline.

dmytrish 6mo ago
I agree with most of your points, but why would a Wayland compositor need a hypervisor at all?
lights0123 6mo ago
While I agree with the rest of your comment, they do mention they use OrbStack as their hypervisor in their demo video.
- jhatemyjob 6mo ago
  Gotcha thanks for that info. Yeah that's insane. You have to read the description of a YouTube video to understand what a project on Github is doing. There is no architecture here.
  - c-hendricks 6mo ago
    Right under the the link to the video the README states: > True protocol portability: Cocoa-Way rendering Linux apps from OrbStack via Unix sockets. And it's been there for at least two months.
    - jhatemyjob 6mo ago
      Good eye.
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OJFord 6mo ago
> It doesn't even say what hypervisor its using. Is it using QEMU? Docker? Podman? Lima? Colima? I don't think it is, you use whatever you want and then run this to connect to Wayland on it? It could even be a separate machine, Linux host, aiui.
- jhatemyjob 6mo ago
  You are correct. I jumped the gun there, a little bit.