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That is not a dupe

by checker659 6mo ago

That is not a dupe

Eufrat 6mo ago
I think it is. The launch announcement explicitly says the same thing, “Meta is our lead partner and customer”.
- checker659 6mo ago
  On HN, dupe means duplicate discussion for the same link
  - password4321 6mo ago
    > duplicate discussion for the same link I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is incorrect per moderator dang at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252: > On HN, dupeness is more a question of whether the underlying story is substantively the same or not I believe dang's most recent in-depth explanation can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 and you can search for more at https://hn.algolia.com?query=author%3Adang+dupe&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com?query=author%3Adang+dupe&sort=byDate&... Submissions of the same exact URL are automatically merged into the previous discussion server side, and are discouraged for about a year.
    - checker659 6mo ago
      But one is a press release from ARM and the other is a report from CNBC. How are the two the same? By your logic, there shouldn't be a gazillion posts about Apple Events the day it happens.
      - geerlingguy 6mo ago
        Apple usually announces like 3-5 new products, each in a distinct market / audience fit. Arm announced one product for one customer. But sometimes two long discussions ensue on separate days for one event/product/announcement, if it's big enough. Often the discussions are merged later on. No big deal.
        mbreese 6mo ago
        And even for big news events (which, this might qualify as), people can miss the first discussion. Even if the discussions end up merged later on, the different discussions can still be fruitful. Which is why, even if it is a duplicate conversation, the mods generally allow things to play out organically. There's either going to be more discussion above, or people have already said their peace and we move on.
      - password4321 6mo ago
        It's not my logic, it's the logic of the moderator(s) of HN. Here's more, cut+paste from the link previously provided (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815): > I agree—they're not all the same story. On the other hand: stories in an ongoing sequence usually lead to repetitive discussion, which is bad for HN
        LtWorf 6mo ago
        > stories in an ongoing sequence usually lead to repetitive discussion, which is bad for HN You mean like the daily repetitive AI news?
      - swores 6mo ago
        When the two submissions aren't the exact same link, it becomes a subjective question as to whether they're similar enough to count as a dupe or not. They aren't automatically always a dupe just because the overall general topic is the same, but nor are they automatically considered not a dupe just because they're not identical. In this case the consensus (that I agree with) certainly seems to be that they're similar enough to be considered a dupe. Though that doesn't force the moderators to have to treat it like a dupe and merge comments.

That is not a dupe

Eufrat 6mo ago

I think it is. The launch announcement explicitly says the same thing, “Meta is our lead partner and customer”.

checker659 6mo ago
On HN, dupe means duplicate discussion for the same link
- password4321 6mo ago
  > duplicate discussion for the same link I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is incorrect per moderator dang at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252: > On HN, dupeness is more a question of whether the underlying story is substantively the same or not I believe dang's most recent in-depth explanation can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 and you can search for more at https://hn.algolia.com?query=author%3Adang+dupe&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com?query=author%3Adang+dupe&sort=byDate&... Submissions of the same exact URL are automatically merged into the previous discussion server side, and are discouraged for about a year.
  - checker659 6mo ago
    But one is a press release from ARM and the other is a report from CNBC. How are the two the same? By your logic, there shouldn't be a gazillion posts about Apple Events the day it happens.
    - geerlingguy 6mo ago
      Apple usually announces like 3-5 new products, each in a distinct market / audience fit. Arm announced one product for one customer. But sometimes two long discussions ensue on separate days for one event/product/announcement, if it's big enough. Often the discussions are merged later on. No big deal.
      - mbreese 6mo ago
        And even for big news events (which, this might qualify as), people can miss the first discussion. Even if the discussions end up merged later on, the different discussions can still be fruitful. Which is why, even if it is a duplicate conversation, the mods generally allow things to play out organically. There's either going to be more discussion above, or people have already said their peace and we move on.
    - password4321 6mo ago
      It's not my logic, it's the logic of the moderator(s) of HN. Here's more, cut+paste from the link previously provided (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815): > I agree—they're not all the same story. On the other hand: stories in an ongoing sequence usually lead to repetitive discussion, which is bad for HN
      - LtWorf 6mo ago
        > stories in an ongoing sequence usually lead to repetitive discussion, which is bad for HN You mean like the daily repetitive AI news?
    - swores 6mo ago
      When the two submissions aren't the exact same link, it becomes a subjective question as to whether they're similar enough to count as a dupe or not. They aren't automatically always a dupe just because the overall general topic is the same, but nor are they automatically considered not a dupe just because they're not identical. In this case the consensus (that I agree with) certainly seems to be that they're similar enough to be considered a dupe. Though that doesn't force the moderators to have to treat it like a dupe and merge comments.