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no comment on the political bits, but the fact that 80% of twitch is streaming to themselves cant be cheap to run I do wish they would revamp their discoverabi
by ellg 6mo ago
no comment on the political bits, but the fact that 80% of twitch is streaming to themselves cant be cheap to run
I do wish they would revamp their discoverability process
- nefarious_ends 6mo agodo you think they get a blank check for AWS resources?
- ellg 6mo agohonestly not sure, but it would explain how they can keep it running
- whaleofatw2022 6mo agoWell, I know a year (or 3?) Back they changed their retention of long videos, my guess is to lower storage spend.
- charcircuit 6mo agoIt's important that they have a proper budget and pay near the sticker price that way they can play accounting games to make Twitch look unprofitable.
- operatingthetan 6mo agoI mean if they are streaming to no clients, is there actually video being transmitted?
- ellg 6mo agoyoure still encoding to like, 4 different formats and pushing bytes to a cdn for 80k+ streams in real time. I think the actual serving of hls chunks is the cheap part
- cwillu 6mo agoTranscoding is only guaranteed for twitch partners, and the cdn doesn't actually distribute the video to a given datacenter until at least one viewer using that datacenter requests it.
- ellg 6mo agoya but 99% of streamers have their stream up in their dashboard or on a side monitor, so its always going to be sending and transcoding something
- vscode-rest 6mo ago[dead]
- Karliss 6mo agoTwitch can forward the stream as is without transcoding it. That's what transcoding not being guaranteed means. It will be a worse experience for viewers but it can work. Few years ago they even announced working with OBS on feature where streamers themselves can transcode and send multiple streams further reducing need for twitch to spend their compute resources on unprofitable streamers.
- saltmate 6mo agoThat feature exists by now, called "Enhanced Broadcasting".
- cwillu 6mo agoIn addition to the other reply, forwarding to one region in the cdn is not the same as forwarding to every region.
- cortesoft 6mo agoMaybe they just don’t do that if you don’t have any streamers.
- tuveson 6mo agoTwitch gets a big cut of individual creators’ subs, and I’d bet most people that stream also sub to other channels. Keeping people in the ecosystem is probably worth it, even if there’s some amount of “freeloading”.
- vintermann 6mo agoI think there's a big "control premium" attached to these things. Not necessarily even that they will manipulate and censor rampantly, but that they could, I think the market prices highly.