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1. looks like duplication. why not arxiv? could lead to multiple submission pipelines 2. as I understand researchers still pay to publish, no? 3. initiative c

1. looks like duplication. why not arxiv? could lead to multiple submission pipelines 2. as I understand researchers still pay to publish, no? 3. initiative could lead to centralization of publishing power(biased?, politics?, bureaucrats) 4. the problem is not just in access to papers (what about connection to business and real applications) 5. the article is published by CERN and is promotion (vague on details, buzzword-heavy)

flexagoon 6mo ago
> looks like duplication. why not arxiv? could lead to multiple submission pipelines Arxiv is for preprints, this is full peer-reviewed publishing. It replaces academic journals, not preprint repositories like arxiv. > as I understand researchers still pay to publish, no? They mention Diamond Open Access, so probably not > initiative could lead to centralization of publishing power Publishing power is already incredibly centralized in hands of a few oligopolistic publishers > the problem is not just in access to papers (what about connection to business and real applications) Not sure what this point means and how it's relevant to this initiative > the article is published by CERN and is promotion (vague on details, buzzword-heavy) Idk, seems pretty specific to me
- ktokarev 6mo ago
  > Arxiv is for preprints, this is full peer-reviewed publishing. It replaces academic journals, not preprint repositories like arxiv. not exactly, they publish first, reviews happen afterwards, often not approved > They mention Diamond Open Access, so probably not not exactly, Diamond Open Access - is still an action plan, access is free only for EU-funded researchers (EU commission actually pays) > few oligopolistic publishers sounds interesting, who do you mean? > Not sure what this point means and how it's relevant to this initiative the initiative is about "sharing knowledge". wonder what is the real purpose > Idk, seems pretty specific to me "open science", "equitable access", "flagship initiative" etc.
  - haritha-j 6mo ago
    That's not Arxiv's role. Arxiv does not manage any review process. It merely hosts preprints. The reviews will happen if you submit to an actual journal or conference, which is entirely independent of the arxiv submission.
lstodd 6mo ago
Arxiv btw has its own problems with curation. It's not full-open access, one can get effectively banned there for reasons not related to quality of submission.
stefantalpalaru 6mo ago
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flexagoon 6mo ago

> looks like duplication. why not arxiv? could lead to multiple submission pipelines Arxiv is for preprints, this is full peer-reviewed publishing. It replaces academic journals, not preprint repositories like arxiv. > as I understand researchers still pay to publish, no? They mention Diamond Open Access, so probably not > initiative could lead to centralization of publishing power Publishing power is already incredibly centralized in hands of a few oligopolistic publishers > the problem is not just in access to papers (what about connection to business and real applications) Not sure what this point means and how it's relevant to this initiative > the article is published by CERN and is promotion (vague on details, buzzword-heavy) Idk, seems pretty specific to me

ktokarev 6mo ago
> Arxiv is for preprints, this is full peer-reviewed publishing. It replaces academic journals, not preprint repositories like arxiv. not exactly, they publish first, reviews happen afterwards, often not approved > They mention Diamond Open Access, so probably not not exactly, Diamond Open Access - is still an action plan, access is free only for EU-funded researchers (EU commission actually pays) > few oligopolistic publishers sounds interesting, who do you mean? > Not sure what this point means and how it's relevant to this initiative the initiative is about "sharing knowledge". wonder what is the real purpose > Idk, seems pretty specific to me "open science", "equitable access", "flagship initiative" etc.
- haritha-j 6mo ago
  That's not Arxiv's role. Arxiv does not manage any review process. It merely hosts preprints. The reviews will happen if you submit to an actual journal or conference, which is entirely independent of the arxiv submission.

lstodd 6mo ago

Arxiv btw has its own problems with curation. It's not full-open access, one can get effectively banned there for reasons not related to quality of submission.

stefantalpalaru 6mo ago

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