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> Swift 6.3 includes the first official release of the Swift SDK for Android.

by ttflee 6mo ago

WillAdams 6mo ago
Anything similar for Windows and Linux? For Windows there's a 5 year old blog post: https://www.swift.org/blog/swift-on-windows/ https://www.swift.org/blog/swift-on-windows/ For Linux there's a guide for GNOME: https://www.swift.org/blog/adwaita-swift/ https://www.swift.org/blog/adwaita-swift/ It would be really nice if instead we could just do one style of development and then ship a set of libraries as used to work for OpenSTEP (which was why it had "OPEN" in the name).
- myko 6mo ago
  I haven't shipped any Swift on Windows myself but I have a production Linux system using Swift (and C++ interop) and it works really well
- migueldeicaza 6mo ago
  Swift on Windows has been part of the official distribution for a long time: https://www.swift.org/install/windows/ https://www.swift.org/install/windows/
  - WillAdams 6mo ago
    The blog posts seems to place higher on search results --- maybe arrange to have it edited? Which GUI toolkit(s) does that install support?
    - fassssst 6mo ago
      None, you’re on your own. The Browser Company made bindings for WinRT so you can use WinUI imperatively but it’s non trivial to set up.
gregoriol 6mo ago
That is going to be used... less than Swift for the servers
- wiseowise 6mo ago
  This is going to be used much more than Swift for servers. Swift is a primarily client-side mobile language. It makes sense that you tap into reusing the logic.
- rirze 6mo ago
  Just like .NET for linux... right? RIGHT?
  - jkman 6mo ago
    At least a very common .NET web app framework is often deployed on linux. Powershell for linux might be more apt lol
- victorbjorklund 6mo ago
  I don't know. Could be nice for those developers that prioritize iOS and now they could keep writing Swift also for Android. Is it gonna be what you primarily use if you wanna write an Android app? Probably not. Is it gonna displace react Native? Probably not. Is it gonna reach the levels of flutter? Maybe.
  - wiseowise 6mo ago
    > Is it gonna reach the levels of flutter? Maybe. Never. It won’t even reach Compose level, Flutter level DX is unattainable for any framework outside Flutter.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 6mo ago
    The language doesn’t really matter. The underlying SDK/framework is where the action is at. However, I suspect that we may not be too far off, from LLMs being the true cross-platform system. You feed the same requirements, with different targets, and it generates full native apps.

> Swift 6.3 includes the first official release of the Swift SDK for Android.

by ttflee 6mo ago

> Swift 6.3 includes the first official release of the Swift SDK for Android.

Anything similar for Windows and Linux? For Windows there's a 5 year old blog post: https://www.swift.org/blog/swift-on-windows/ https://www.swift.org/blog/swift-on-windows/ For Linux there's a guide for GNOME: https://www.swift.org/blog/adwaita-swift/ https://www.swift.org/blog/adwaita-swift/ It would be really nice if instead we could just do one style of development and then ship a set of libraries as used to work for OpenSTEP (which was why it had "OPEN" in the name).

myko 6mo ago
I haven't shipped any Swift on Windows myself but I have a production Linux system using Swift (and C++ interop) and it works really well
migueldeicaza 6mo ago
Swift on Windows has been part of the official distribution for a long time: https://www.swift.org/install/windows/ https://www.swift.org/install/windows/
- WillAdams 6mo ago
  The blog posts seems to place higher on search results --- maybe arrange to have it edited? Which GUI toolkit(s) does that install support?
  - fassssst 6mo ago
    None, you’re on your own. The Browser Company made bindings for WinRT so you can use WinUI imperatively but it’s non trivial to set up.

gregoriol 6mo ago

That is going to be used... less than Swift for the servers

wiseowise 6mo ago
This is going to be used much more than Swift for servers. Swift is a primarily client-side mobile language. It makes sense that you tap into reusing the logic.
rirze 6mo ago
Just like .NET for linux... right? RIGHT?
- jkman 6mo ago
  At least a very common .NET web app framework is often deployed on linux. Powershell for linux might be more apt lol
victorbjorklund 6mo ago
I don't know. Could be nice for those developers that prioritize iOS and now they could keep writing Swift also for Android. Is it gonna be what you primarily use if you wanna write an Android app? Probably not. Is it gonna displace react Native? Probably not. Is it gonna reach the levels of flutter? Maybe.
- wiseowise 6mo ago
  > Is it gonna reach the levels of flutter? Maybe. Never. It won’t even reach Compose level, Flutter level DX is unattainable for any framework outside Flutter.
- ChrisMarshallNY 6mo ago
  The language doesn’t really matter. The underlying SDK/framework is where the action is at. However, I suspect that we may not be too far off, from LLMs being the true cross-platform system. You feed the same requirements, with different targets, and it generates full native apps.