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github is at one nine, basically: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47428035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47428035

Imustaskforhelp 6mo ago
9% ? /s (though To be honest I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if things go down so bad too at this point either)
- abound 6mo ago
  Unironically, I think 9% uptime would be "one-tenth of a nine".
  - brookst 6mo ago
    Are you saying 9.999% isn’t four nines?
    - munchler 6mo ago
      Can’t tell if this is intended as humor, but I LOL’ed.
    - the_real_cher 6mo ago
      It unarguably is.
  - mememememememo 6mo ago
    Reliability where N is the number of nines: 1 - 10 ^ -N (multiply by 100 for percent) So 9% is 0.09 for the calc 1 - 10 ^ -N = 0.09 So 10 ^ -N = 0.91 So N = -log10 0.91 So 0.09 (9%) reliability is 0.0409586077 of a nine. And running it thru... a tenth of a nine is 0.2056717653 or about 20.57% reliability
- mememememememo 6mo ago
  90% would be one 9 following the sequence back. 99.99 99.90 99.00 90.00
msandford 6mo ago
I once worked at a place with more micro services than engineers. We joked about "we have as many 8s of uptime as you need!"
- the_real_cher 6mo ago
  seven nines? That's nothing , bro we got twelve eights!
  - nuker 6mo ago
    I have Royal flush :)
- 0x3f 6mo ago
  > I once worked at a place with more micro services than engineers. Currently consulting somwhere with 30 services per engineer. I cannot convince them this is hell. Maybe that makes it my personal hell.
  - msandford 6mo ago
    Oooof that's rough. One strategy to convince is to get someone less technical than you to sit by you while you try and trace everything from one error'd HTTP request from start to finish to diagnose the problem. If they see it takes half a day to check every call to every internal endpoint to 100% satisfy a particular request sometimes that can help. Also sometimes they just think "this is a bunch of nerd stuff, why are you involving me?!" So it's not foolproof.
    - 0x3f 6mo ago
      Oh, my non-technical boss agrees with me already. It's actually the engineers who've convinced themselves it's a good setup. Nice guys but very unwilling to change. Seems they're quite happy to have become 'experts' in this mess over the last 5-10 years. Almost like they're in retirement mode. The real solution is probably to leave, but the market sucks at the moment. At least AI makes the 10-repos-per-tiny-feature thing easier.
rdtsc 6mo ago
From five nines to nine fives

Imustaskforhelp 6mo ago

9% ? /s (though To be honest I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if things go down so bad too at this point either)

abound 6mo ago
Unironically, I think 9% uptime would be "one-tenth of a nine".
- brookst 6mo ago
  Are you saying 9.999% isn’t four nines?
  - munchler 6mo ago
    Can’t tell if this is intended as humor, but I LOL’ed.
  - the_real_cher 6mo ago
    It unarguably is.
- mememememememo 6mo ago
  Reliability where N is the number of nines: 1 - 10 ^ -N (multiply by 100 for percent) So 9% is 0.09 for the calc 1 - 10 ^ -N = 0.09 So 10 ^ -N = 0.91 So N = -log10 0.91 So 0.09 (9%) reliability is 0.0409586077 of a nine. And running it thru... a tenth of a nine is 0.2056717653 or about 20.57% reliability
mememememememo 6mo ago
90% would be one 9 following the sequence back. 99.99 99.90 99.00 90.00

msandford 6mo ago

I once worked at a place with more micro services than engineers. We joked about "we have as many 8s of uptime as you need!"

the_real_cher 6mo ago
seven nines? That's nothing , bro we got twelve eights!
- nuker 6mo ago
  I have Royal flush :)
0x3f 6mo ago
> I once worked at a place with more micro services than engineers. Currently consulting somwhere with 30 services per engineer. I cannot convince them this is hell. Maybe that makes it my personal hell.
- msandford 6mo ago
  Oooof that's rough. One strategy to convince is to get someone less technical than you to sit by you while you try and trace everything from one error'd HTTP request from start to finish to diagnose the problem. If they see it takes half a day to check every call to every internal endpoint to 100% satisfy a particular request sometimes that can help. Also sometimes they just think "this is a bunch of nerd stuff, why are you involving me?!" So it's not foolproof.
  - 0x3f 6mo ago
    Oh, my non-technical boss agrees with me already. It's actually the engineers who've convinced themselves it's a good setup. Nice guys but very unwilling to change. Seems they're quite happy to have become 'experts' in this mess over the last 5-10 years. Almost like they're in retirement mode. The real solution is probably to leave, but the market sucks at the moment. At least AI makes the 10-repos-per-tiny-feature thing easier.

rdtsc 6mo ago

From five nines to nine fives