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Macs are too expensive for the same performance/ram, and Linux still can't run proper creative software.

dirasieb 6mo ago
feel free to link a windows computer (pre-built or parts, whatever you want) that outperforms the m4 mac mini while costing either the same or less
- jacooper 6mo ago
  In my case the bottleneck isn't cpu performance, it's ram. You can't run serious apps with 16gigs, nor lightroom with a large catalog nor Photoshop with Ai filters. Also running multiple agents with dev servers is ram intensive.
maxnoe 6mo ago
"Most companies still do not publish Linux builds for creative software" There, fixed it for you. It's not like Linux is the blocker here.
- jacooper 6mo ago
  Doesn't matter, the end result is the same.
troupo 6mo ago
> Macs are too expensive for the same performance/ram This hasn't been true for at least a decade. And it's especially not true for the M* series Macs. Even Macbook Neo can handle editing several layers of 4k video files in several apps while running everything else https://youtu.be/Mo6o8RKn7jE?is=opeCYMDbt7bUAdvS https://youtu.be/Mo6o8RKn7jE?is=opeCYMDbt7bUAdvS Try that on "the same performance/ram" Windows Machine
nunodonato 6mo ago
are you a creative professional? because I see that argument quite often as if people use Adobe CS daily, and then its mostly people who do basic stuff (that photopea or gimp can handle fine), but they like to feel "pro" by launching their pirated version of photoshop.
- spookie 6mo ago
  I use krita, adobe substance 2024, blender and whatever other software. Professionally. When I hear these arguments I just think these people are simply chained.
- jacooper 6mo ago
  Gimp is ass, what takes me 5 minutes in Photoshop needs an hour in GIMP. Also I edit photos occasionally in lightroom. I actually daily Linux, but I still have to dual boot for gaming and Adobe. Also Linux isn't flawless either, Fedora broke sleep on my full AMD PC since like a month now and no agent could successfully debug it.
yourusername 6mo ago
This used to be the case but looking at Macbooks now they are not much more expensive than a Windows laptop you would actually want to buy. And since they will still have some residual value 5 years from now i think it's about even.
- someguyiguess 6mo ago
  My main computer is a 2020 m1 Mac. It handles everything I throw at it. I predict I’ll upgrade in maybe 4-5 years.
- mschild 6mo ago
  > And since they will still have some residual value 5 years from now. I dont know any private person in my circle that actually sold their laptop until it wasnt broken or so painfully old that the used value was mostly for spare parts. That may change a bit with the skyrocketing pc part prices but still.
- someonenice 6mo ago
  This used to be case before the M series. Now each year a new M processor gets released that are "cheaper" than the previous generation MAC - better processor, more RAM and more storage for similar price than last year model. This impacted their price in used market.

feel free to link a windows computer (pre-built or parts, whatever you want) that outperforms the m4 mac mini while costing either the same or less

jacooper 6mo ago
In my case the bottleneck isn't cpu performance, it's ram. You can't run serious apps with 16gigs, nor lightroom with a large catalog nor Photoshop with Ai filters. Also running multiple agents with dev servers is ram intensive.

maxnoe 6mo ago

"Most companies still do not publish Linux builds for creative software" There, fixed it for you. It's not like Linux is the blocker here.

jacooper 6mo ago
Doesn't matter, the end result is the same.

troupo 6mo ago

> Macs are too expensive for the same performance/ram This hasn't been true for at least a decade. And it's especially not true for the M* series Macs. Even Macbook Neo can handle editing several layers of 4k video files in several apps while running everything else https://youtu.be/Mo6o8RKn7jE?is=opeCYMDbt7bUAdvS https://youtu.be/Mo6o8RKn7jE?is=opeCYMDbt7bUAdvS Try that on "the same performance/ram" Windows Machine

nunodonato 6mo ago

are you a creative professional? because I see that argument quite often as if people use Adobe CS daily, and then its mostly people who do basic stuff (that photopea or gimp can handle fine), but they like to feel "pro" by launching their pirated version of photoshop.

spookie 6mo ago
I use krita, adobe substance 2024, blender and whatever other software. Professionally. When I hear these arguments I just think these people are simply chained.
jacooper 6mo ago
Gimp is ass, what takes me 5 minutes in Photoshop needs an hour in GIMP. Also I edit photos occasionally in lightroom. I actually daily Linux, but I still have to dual boot for gaming and Adobe. Also Linux isn't flawless either, Fedora broke sleep on my full AMD PC since like a month now and no agent could successfully debug it.

yourusername 6mo ago

This used to be the case but looking at Macbooks now they are not much more expensive than a Windows laptop you would actually want to buy. And since they will still have some residual value 5 years from now i think it's about even.

someguyiguess 6mo ago
My main computer is a 2020 m1 Mac. It handles everything I throw at it. I predict I’ll upgrade in maybe 4-5 years.
mschild 6mo ago
> And since they will still have some residual value 5 years from now. I dont know any private person in my circle that actually sold their laptop until it wasnt broken or so painfully old that the used value was mostly for spare parts. That may change a bit with the skyrocketing pc part prices but still.
someonenice 6mo ago
This used to be case before the M series. Now each year a new M processor gets released that are "cheaper" than the previous generation MAC - better processor, more RAM and more storage for similar price than last year model. This impacted their price in used market.