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I don't think I understand the analogy? If two people are working on the same project and one enjoys and specializes in front-end development and the other enj

I don't think I understand the analogy? If two people are working on the same project and one enjoys and specializes in front-end development and the other enjoys and specializes in back-end development, and the project is roughly 50/50 front-end and back-end, why on earth should they NOT split up the project accordingly? They will both enjoy working on it more, they will get it done faster, and with better results than if they each took half the front-end and half the back-end work. Neither partner is "exploiting" the other or anything like that (as implied by your analogy); it's just in their mutual interest to divide the work in this way.

chubot 14y ago
He was saying that the phrasing, from a back end guy, revealed exactly the lazy attitude that was described in the post. When a back end guy says, "Hey front end guy, make it look pretty" -- that's not showing much appreciation for what they actually do. Front end guys: is what you do just making things look pretty? Or maybe it's closer to understanding how people actually use a product. And designing a UI that can cater to both novices and experts, etc.
- freditup 14y ago
  Here's the reason I said that: "No matter what I try, I can't make it look pretty. I realize I'm such a horrible artist/designer that no matter how much effort I put in, it's always going to be an ugly mess if I do the front end. So what I appreciate most is them making it look pretty. Other aspects of the jobs I can do better, so it's not quite as important to me to have someone else doing it. Perhaps it is a "lazy" attitude, but it's not a condescending one. :)
  - chubot 14y ago
    But that's not what front end devs do. Maybe you could say that's what designers do. Front end dev != designer.
- Goronmon 14y ago
  It all depends on whether you take "make it look pretty" as an insult or just a simplified statement of what a front-end person does. I, for one, read "make it look pretty" as "make it look like something people would want to use".
001sky 14y ago
relevant (figure of speech) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

chubot 14y ago

He was saying that the phrasing, from a back end guy, revealed exactly the lazy attitude that was described in the post. When a back end guy says, "Hey front end guy, make it look pretty" -- that's not showing much appreciation for what they actually do. Front end guys: is what you do just making things look pretty? Or maybe it's closer to understanding how people actually use a product. And designing a UI that can cater to both novices and experts, etc.

freditup 14y ago
Here's the reason I said that: "No matter what I try, I can't make it look pretty. I realize I'm such a horrible artist/designer that no matter how much effort I put in, it's always going to be an ugly mess if I do the front end. So what I appreciate most is them making it look pretty. Other aspects of the jobs I can do better, so it's not quite as important to me to have someone else doing it. Perhaps it is a "lazy" attitude, but it's not a condescending one. :)
- chubot 14y ago
  But that's not what front end devs do. Maybe you could say that's what designers do. Front end dev != designer.
Goronmon 14y ago
It all depends on whether you take "make it look pretty" as an insult or just a simplified statement of what a front-end person does. I, for one, read "make it look pretty" as "make it look like something people would want to use".

001sky 14y ago

relevant (figure of speech) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig