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> Case in point, it took 13 years of constant community effort to hack it. Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? I'm no

by devmor 6mo ago

> Case in point, it took 13 years of constant community effort to hack it. Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? I'm not very familiar with the Xbox scene, but I would assume that there was a lot less drive to achieve this given that Xbox has never really had many big exclusive titles and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of the US). As an aside, I wonder if Microsoft's extra effort into securing the platform comes from their tighter partnership with media distributors/streaming platforms and their off-and-on demonstrated desire to position the Xbox as a home media center more than just a gaming console.

joe_mamba 6mo ago
>and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of the US). TF are you on about? The xbox one of 2013(competitor of the PS4 who got hacked long before) had a ~46% market share in the US and ~35% globally. Hardly insignificant. And any Microsoft Product, even those with much lower market share, attracts significant attention from hackers since it's worth a lot in street-cred, plus the case of reusing cheap consoles as general PCs for compute since HW used to be subsidized. And of course for piracy, game preservation and homebrew reasons. I again tap the sign of my previous comment, of uring people to stop jumping the gun to talk out of their ass, without knowing and considering the full context.
- devmor 6mo ago
  Can you provide a source for those statistics? They don’t match up with any numbers I’ve seen, and in fact look ludicrously unrealistic.
  - joe_mamba 6mo ago
    >Can you provide a source for those statistics? Google Gemini > They don’t match up with any numbers I’ve seen, and in fact look ludicrously unrealistic. Well can you post your numbers and sources, or are we supposed to read your mind?
    - devmor 6mo ago
      > I asked a machine to make it up for me. I don't come here to argue with an LLM. Use your brain and ability to research if you want to argue with me.
debugnik 6mo ago
I too forget sometimes that Wii U existed.
- platevoltage 6mo ago
  I forgot that my Wii U existed until I remembered, hooked it up, and the NAND had gone bad. So I replaced the NAND by soldering in an SD card, got it working again, and put it back in its box until I decide I need to play Wind Waker again.
- devmor 6mo ago
  Wow. I really did forget it existed. I was still thinking of the Wii.
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deadbeef7f 6mo ago
> Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? The person who hacked the original Xbox wrote a book on the topic, which they've since made free: https://bunniefoo.com/nostarch/HackingTheXbox_Free.pdf https://bunniefoo.com/nostarch/HackingTheXbox_Free.pdf
- devmor 6mo ago
  Oh that’s the best source I could ask for, thank you!

by devmor 6mo ago

joe_mamba 6mo ago

>and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of the US). TF are you on about? The xbox one of 2013(competitor of the PS4 who got hacked long before) had a ~46% market share in the US and ~35% globally. Hardly insignificant. And any Microsoft Product, even those with much lower market share, attracts significant attention from hackers since it's worth a lot in street-cred, plus the case of reusing cheap consoles as general PCs for compute since HW used to be subsidized. And of course for piracy, game preservation and homebrew reasons. I again tap the sign of my previous comment, of uring people to stop jumping the gun to talk out of their ass, without knowing and considering the full context.

devmor 6mo ago
Can you provide a source for those statistics? They don’t match up with any numbers I’ve seen, and in fact look ludicrously unrealistic.
- joe_mamba 6mo ago
  >Can you provide a source for those statistics? Google Gemini > They don’t match up with any numbers I’ve seen, and in fact look ludicrously unrealistic. Well can you post your numbers and sources, or are we supposed to read your mind?
  - devmor 6mo ago
    > I asked a machine to make it up for me. I don't come here to argue with an LLM. Use your brain and ability to research if you want to argue with me.

debugnik 6mo ago

I too forget sometimes that Wii U existed.

platevoltage 6mo ago
I forgot that my Wii U existed until I remembered, hooked it up, and the NAND had gone bad. So I replaced the NAND by soldering in an SD card, got it working again, and put it back in its box until I decide I need to play Wind Waker again.
devmor 6mo ago
Wow. I really did forget it existed. I was still thinking of the Wii.

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deadbeef7f 6mo ago

> Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? The person who hacked the original Xbox wrote a book on the topic, which they've since made free: https://bunniefoo.com/nostarch/HackingTheXbox_Free.pdf https://bunniefoo.com/nostarch/HackingTheXbox_Free.pdf

devmor 6mo ago
Oh that’s the best source I could ask for, thank you!