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It’s an interesting look into HN. Charitably, this is an astroturf that accumulated 200+ upvotes in about 20 minutes, which I suspect is highly irregular for H

It’s an interesting look into HN. Charitably, this is an astroturf that accumulated 200+ upvotes in about 20 minutes, which I suspect is highly irregular for HN. Along, with a very clear concerted effort to quickly downvote anyone pointing out this is isn’t HN. If this is the case, what is HN admin doing about it? Less charitably, HN is not where hackers hang out anymore. The hackers have moved on and HN is now this.

asdff 6mo ago
Interesting how this highlights a philosophical conundrum here that I'm not sure I have the answer to that goes beyond just forums. Do people make the community, or do rules make the community? I can envision arguments for both sides.
- ipv6ipv4 6mo ago
  It’s the interaction of the two.
- longislandguido 6mo ago
  People here prefer arguing about the rules (and alleged violations thereof) more than they do making concrete, substantive arguments.
- kjksf 6mo ago
  Does it matter? If HN gets invaded by people who want to discuss cooking and start submitting and upvoting cooking articles and HN turns into cooking discussion website? And once they get majority, they'll change the rules to make it exclusively about cooking. It's still people, just different people. People who like cooking vs. people who like technology and startups. There's no philosophical conundrum. Do you want HN to be colonized by cooking people or not? That is the question. I don't. We need to stand our ground and repel colonizers who want to change the character of HN. Our unity is our strength.
- hjkl0 6mo ago
  The rules are made by people. So it’s just people all the way down…
jazzpush2 6mo ago
You think, charitably, that this is an astroturf, really? What's the distribution of upvotes look like for front-page posts, binned in 20 minute intervals? Reviewing your post history, it's overwhelmingly in non-tech related threads. This seems like a standard post for your tastes, semantically. Why then the sudden distaste?

asdff 6mo ago

Interesting how this highlights a philosophical conundrum here that I'm not sure I have the answer to that goes beyond just forums. Do people make the community, or do rules make the community? I can envision arguments for both sides.

ipv6ipv4 6mo ago
It’s the interaction of the two.
longislandguido 6mo ago
People here prefer arguing about the rules (and alleged violations thereof) more than they do making concrete, substantive arguments.
kjksf 6mo ago
Does it matter? If HN gets invaded by people who want to discuss cooking and start submitting and upvoting cooking articles and HN turns into cooking discussion website? And once they get majority, they'll change the rules to make it exclusively about cooking. It's still people, just different people. People who like cooking vs. people who like technology and startups. There's no philosophical conundrum. Do you want HN to be colonized by cooking people or not? That is the question. I don't. We need to stand our ground and repel colonizers who want to change the character of HN. Our unity is our strength.
hjkl0 6mo ago
The rules are made by people. So it’s just people all the way down…

jazzpush2 6mo ago

You think, charitably, that this is an astroturf, really? What's the distribution of upvotes look like for front-page posts, binned in 20 minute intervals? Reviewing your post history, it's overwhelmingly in non-tech related threads. This seems like a standard post for your tastes, semantically. Why then the sudden distaste?