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Ban reason and the moderator name were public on Something Awful, which allowed the community to respond (actively or passively), and for more senior moderators

Ban reason and the moderator name were public on Something Awful, which allowed the community to respond (actively or passively), and for more senior moderators/admin to take public action against rogue moderators. The transparent audit trail countered the incentive to ban somewhat, but a lot of people also treating getting banned as a game.

koolala 6mo ago
Did they ban for this rule often? "Am I making a post which is either funny, informative, or interesting on any level? I hate how Reddit mods ban any post they don't like as being 'low effort / shit / spam' when it is completely vague.
- ranger_danger 6mo ago
  Lemmy is even worse on the moderation front, even with public logs: https://a.imagem.app/G3R9xb.png https://a.imagem.app/G3R9xb.png
  - emaro 6mo ago
    Lemmy isn't simply Lemmy since it's federated. A screenshot like this is somewhat meaningless without specifying on which instance this happened. There are instances with very lax or even no moderation at all.
    - ranger_danger 6mo ago
      For the majority of large, well-federated instances, I don't think it's meaningless, because deletions also propagate to other instances. If a mod on one server doesn't like something I say, and they delete my comment, all the other (well-behaved) federated instances will also delete my comment. Of course this also creates problems in the other direction, like servers that ignore deletion requests. That combined with a large amount of blocked instances across the board, I feel like you get into this "which direction would you like to piss into the wind" situation where you have no idea how many people/instances will actually see your message if at all.
      - gzread 6mo ago
        Only on sublemmys owned by that server.
  - gzread 6mo ago
    Lemmy is software, like phpBB. You wouldn't say phpBB has bad moderators.
    - ranger_danger 6mo ago
      In my experience, the people across different lemmy instances are not as diverse or unique as you might think. You might disagree but that's ok.
- AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
  It's because you can't reasonably put everything in the rules. They would be thousands of words and still have holes and special carve-outs, _and_ users will still argue about rules application if you say your rules cover everything. It's more reasonable to have "a spirit of the law", so to speak.

koolala 6mo ago

Did they ban for this rule often? "Am I making a post which is either funny, informative, or interesting on any level? I hate how Reddit mods ban any post they don't like as being 'low effort / shit / spam' when it is completely vague.

ranger_danger 6mo ago
Lemmy is even worse on the moderation front, even with public logs: https://a.imagem.app/G3R9xb.png https://a.imagem.app/G3R9xb.png
- emaro 6mo ago
  Lemmy isn't simply Lemmy since it's federated. A screenshot like this is somewhat meaningless without specifying on which instance this happened. There are instances with very lax or even no moderation at all.
  - ranger_danger 6mo ago
    For the majority of large, well-federated instances, I don't think it's meaningless, because deletions also propagate to other instances. If a mod on one server doesn't like something I say, and they delete my comment, all the other (well-behaved) federated instances will also delete my comment. Of course this also creates problems in the other direction, like servers that ignore deletion requests. That combined with a large amount of blocked instances across the board, I feel like you get into this "which direction would you like to piss into the wind" situation where you have no idea how many people/instances will actually see your message if at all.
    - gzread 6mo ago
      Only on sublemmys owned by that server.
- gzread 6mo ago
  Lemmy is software, like phpBB. You wouldn't say phpBB has bad moderators.
  - ranger_danger 6mo ago
    In my experience, the people across different lemmy instances are not as diverse or unique as you might think. You might disagree but that's ok.
AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
It's because you can't reasonably put everything in the rules. They would be thousands of words and still have holes and special carve-outs, _and_ users will still argue about rules application if you say your rules cover everything. It's more reasonable to have "a spirit of the law", so to speak.