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There is no limit to the power grab. The only acceptable thing to do is to dig the trenches before it gets worse.

by nszceta 6mo ago

EGreg 6mo ago
The trenches will eventually be overwhelmed regardless. Once the government has AI and sensors, it will mandate its ubiquitous use. For minors, we have this lovely law coming in NYC: that will broadcast to everyone that you’re a minor: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102 But let’s talk about around the US. For example, all cars manufactured in 2029 and onward will be required to have a built-in alcohol detector / breathalyzer and to shut down and not let you drive if they detect your blood alcohol level is too high: https://www.clear2drive.com/the-pass-act-explained/ https://www.clear2drive.com/the-pass-act-explained/ And in 2027 — next year — new cars are required to watch where you are looking, how much you’re blinking or nodding and alert authorities if you aren’t alert enough: https://www.gadgetreview.com/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-in-new-cars-by-2027 https://www.gadgetreview.com/federal-surveillance-tech-becom... And it’s not just the US government. That phone in your hand? Governments have mandated tha all vendors preinstall spy software, filters and apps on it, that are not removable: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/government-mandated-software https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/government-mand... Also these phones no longer shut down when you shut them down. They continue operating and sending telemetry so the government can eventually know where they are at all times. https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/228682/why-do-cell-phones-dont-really-turn-off-unless-battery-removed https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/228682/why-do-ce... This is in addition to the interlinked CCTV cameras that are the norm in various cities (eg in the UK), new Flock cameras in US, etc. But the government doesnt even need Flock or Ring to cooperate. They have plenty of their own housing programs to install thousands of cameras to spy on citizens 24/7, and can now deploy AI to sift through it all. Here in NYC we already have the lovely Domain Awareness System: https://nysfocus.com/2025/08/11/eric-adams-nycha-nypd-cameras-surveillance https://nysfocus.com/2025/08/11/eric-adams-nycha-nypd-camera... To sum up: the government can know what you’re doing at all times, with sensors in your car, mandated apps on your phone, cameras on your street, and soon, mandated telemetry sent by your operating system. Caretakers of kids are required to report anything to authorities and not let parents know, in case the department of child services might need to know. Every child is required to be vaccinated too, with lots of different vaccines. I wouldn’t be surprised if toilet plumbing in every apartment in the future will be required to install a test for what you’re eating or drinking, to catch diseases early and for public health. Looks like this short film is a documentary about our future, except with AI doing the snitching instead of humans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8
- rmast 6mo ago
  The sobriety check requirement for cars is so optimistic: “Once data prove the tech cuts drunk-driving crashes, insurers may trim rates.” Why would any insurance company want to cut into their profits by reducing rates?
  - wat10000 6mo ago
    Because it's a competitive market and offering a lower price than your competitors helps you earn more business. If your competitors lower their prices and you don't lower yours then you'll lose business.
    - mothballed 6mo ago
      It's optimistic to think it will even do anything to stop drunks. It's a $5 wrench problem. They think all this tech will stop drunks, when in reality some guy gorded out his mind on vodka is paying his 12 year old his weekly $20 allowance to blow into the machine.
      - EGreg 6mo ago
        To be fair, it's not about blowing into the machine, but a bunch of sensors all around the driver, e.g. looking at the finger pressing the button to test your blood alcohol content through your skin, detecting alcohol particles, etc. So you better hope your passenger isn't drunk LMAO
    - everdrive 6mo ago
      This is a wildly optimistic view for insurance companies in particular. You basically need to jump providers every few years, or else you're overpaying.
      - wat10000 6mo ago
        I don't understand how this is supposed to be an argument against what I'm saying. The fact that you can shop around and get a better rate demonstrates the fact that insurance is a competitive market and companies will lower rates to win business.
Bender 6mo ago
My trench is keeping backups of ISO's that do not contain this creeping garbage. I will manually patch apps and where I can't the OS will be read-only and ephemeral. This will be my process until governments are no longer vulnerable to bribery. I suspect the dark pattern this will lead to is user-maintained ISO's as was the early days of Microsoft. People would slip-stream in patches, applications, better default settings and in some cases, malware.
labcomputer 6mo ago
And how well did that strategy work for Apple with the DMA?

There is no limit to the power grab. The only acceptable thing to do is to dig the trenches before it gets worse.

by nszceta 6mo ago

There is no limit to the power grab. The only acceptable thing to do is to dig the trenches before it gets worse.

EGreg 6mo ago

The trenches will eventually be overwhelmed regardless. Once the government has AI and sensors, it will mandate its ubiquitous use. For minors, we have this lovely law coming in NYC: that will broadcast to everyone that you’re a minor: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102 But let’s talk about around the US. For example, all cars manufactured in 2029 and onward will be required to have a built-in alcohol detector / breathalyzer and to shut down and not let you drive if they detect your blood alcohol level is too high: https://www.clear2drive.com/the-pass-act-explained/ https://www.clear2drive.com/the-pass-act-explained/ And in 2027 — next year — new cars are required to watch where you are looking, how much you’re blinking or nodding and alert authorities if you aren’t alert enough: https://www.gadgetreview.com/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-in-new-cars-by-2027 https://www.gadgetreview.com/federal-surveillance-tech-becom... And it’s not just the US government. That phone in your hand? Governments have mandated tha all vendors preinstall spy software, filters and apps on it, that are not removable: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/government-mandated-software https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/government-mand... Also these phones no longer shut down when you shut them down. They continue operating and sending telemetry so the government can eventually know where they are at all times. https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/228682/why-do-cell-phones-dont-really-turn-off-unless-battery-removed https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/228682/why-do-ce... This is in addition to the interlinked CCTV cameras that are the norm in various cities (eg in the UK), new Flock cameras in US, etc. But the government doesnt even need Flock or Ring to cooperate. They have plenty of their own housing programs to install thousands of cameras to spy on citizens 24/7, and can now deploy AI to sift through it all. Here in NYC we already have the lovely Domain Awareness System: https://nysfocus.com/2025/08/11/eric-adams-nycha-nypd-cameras-surveillance https://nysfocus.com/2025/08/11/eric-adams-nycha-nypd-camera... To sum up: the government can know what you’re doing at all times, with sensors in your car, mandated apps on your phone, cameras on your street, and soon, mandated telemetry sent by your operating system. Caretakers of kids are required to report anything to authorities and not let parents know, in case the department of child services might need to know. Every child is required to be vaccinated too, with lots of different vaccines. I wouldn’t be surprised if toilet plumbing in every apartment in the future will be required to install a test for what you’re eating or drinking, to catch diseases early and for public health. Looks like this short film is a documentary about our future, except with AI doing the snitching instead of humans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8

rmast 6mo ago
The sobriety check requirement for cars is so optimistic: “Once data prove the tech cuts drunk-driving crashes, insurers may trim rates.” Why would any insurance company want to cut into their profits by reducing rates?
- wat10000 6mo ago
  Because it's a competitive market and offering a lower price than your competitors helps you earn more business. If your competitors lower their prices and you don't lower yours then you'll lose business.
  - mothballed 6mo ago
    It's optimistic to think it will even do anything to stop drunks. It's a $5 wrench problem. They think all this tech will stop drunks, when in reality some guy gorded out his mind on vodka is paying his 12 year old his weekly $20 allowance to blow into the machine.
    - EGreg 6mo ago
      To be fair, it's not about blowing into the machine, but a bunch of sensors all around the driver, e.g. looking at the finger pressing the button to test your blood alcohol content through your skin, detecting alcohol particles, etc. So you better hope your passenger isn't drunk LMAO
  - everdrive 6mo ago
    This is a wildly optimistic view for insurance companies in particular. You basically need to jump providers every few years, or else you're overpaying.
    - wat10000 6mo ago
      I don't understand how this is supposed to be an argument against what I'm saying. The fact that you can shop around and get a better rate demonstrates the fact that insurance is a competitive market and companies will lower rates to win business.

Bender 6mo ago

My trench is keeping backups of ISO's that do not contain this creeping garbage. I will manually patch apps and where I can't the OS will be read-only and ephemeral. This will be my process until governments are no longer vulnerable to bribery. I suspect the dark pattern this will lead to is user-maintained ISO's as was the early days of Microsoft. People would slip-stream in patches, applications, better default settings and in some cases, malware.

labcomputer 6mo ago

And how well did that strategy work for Apple with the DMA?