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That was my main takeaway as well. How do you do this without any shame? My man is emitting an amount of CO2 on par with an small African country
by dansmith1919 6mo ago
That was my main takeaway as well. How do you do this without any shame? My man is emitting an amount of CO2 on par with an small African country
- eudamoniac 6mo agoI refuse to worsen my life for an absolutely minuscule abstract benefit to someone, eventually, maybe. I am going to continue eating meat and flying when I want to, and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. It's unfortunate that climate change is happening, but my personal actions are not meaningfully contributing. My choices do not have cascading effects on others; whatever I do, the climate will change in the same manner as it otherwise would have. In that light, I am not going to reduce my QOL just to feel self righteous for no actual benefit to anyone. You may wonder how this is consistent with my propensity to recycle and follow traffic laws and not do crimes and other socially beneficial minor things to which a comparison could be made to CO2 output: because those all have a greater benefit:cost ratio than flying and eating meat, by far. I am including the benefits of living in a high-trust society in that analysis.
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- nicbou 6mo ago"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in." Instead we're razing the forests and bragging about our indifference.
- eudamoniac 6mo agoMe planting a tree results in a tree existing for progeny. Me skipping a flight results in absolutely no difference for progeny. I pick my battles. I also plant a lot of trees, literally.
- adamtaylor_13 6mo agoMost people don't spend a lot of time wistfully considering their CO2 usage, myself included. The religious zeal by which people feel the need to tell me about the ever-warming planet is honestly more off-putting than most actual religions. Of the very few "f*cks" I can give in my life, I prefer to spend mine as I choose rather than being scolded for not giving mine to the pressing issues that others deem important.
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- nicbou 6mo agoThe thing is that everyone alive today and in the future is footing the bill for that indifference. It's nice that you don't care, but it's not something I'd brag about.
- integralid 6mo agoI too don't want to be a martyr hermit who don't travel and consume just to cur my CO2 emissions in half, while someone else generates 10x of that living a full life. That's just dumb, and I consider this whole movement rich people telling poor people that they should be considerate and sacrifice themselves. If you truly care about the planet, don't have children.
- nicbou 6mo agoIt's an "all hands on deck" situation, yet everyone seems to think that someone else has to do something. You don't need to be a martyr, just to make an effort. At the very least don't brag about not giving a crap.
- spiderice 6mo agoI don't give a crap, in the most boastful way possible. Sorry if my zealotry isn't your zealotry.
- spiderice 6mo agoI would totally do this without any shame if I had the need/desire. CO2 isn't going to be solved by well intentioned individuals making absolutely no impact. It will be a generic solution that solves it for everyone, or it won't be solved at all. I'm also not going to take shorter showers when people are farming in a desert and shipping the crops to China. You might think this makes me a terrible person. That's probably good. Because it will help people understand what we're up against and what needs to happen to actually solve the problem. "Take less flights" isn't the solution.