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It just seems to me that that Macbook Neo is basically them telling us that come next year they will unify iOS and MacOS and they are testing the waters at the

by stein1946 6mo ago

It just seems to me that that Macbook Neo is basically them telling us that come next year they will unify iOS and MacOS and they are testing the waters at the moment. All this version alignment, the blurring of "here is a laptop with A processor and iOS" points to that direction. The errs of Tahoe are basically a result of the rush on that direction

nashashmi 6mo ago
I think they have the pathway to merge it right now. But it will cannibalize their sales so they dont want to do that.
merlindru 6mo ago
i hope you're wrong. they certainly have seemed to test the waters on many other fronts. the $99/yr notarization fee is now basically required as running unnotarized apps is made hard and scary enough to turn off probably 97% of average users they also briefly took away the ability to disable gatekeeper per terminal command (now back) next they wanna launch a touchscreen macbook, presumably this fall
- roysting 6mo ago
  I hope they don’t ever do a touchscreen MacBook. They already have every angle of that use case covered far better than the competition; either you get an iPad if you absolutely need to be pawing at a screen, or you have the excellent trackpads that are far and away par excellence. I don’t see how a touch screen on top of also the industry standard for screen quality will in any way improve by having greasy finger trails distorting the tiny pixels. Maybe I’m missing something. How would a touchscreen MacBook improve on something? That being said, based on what I’ve been seeing at Apple, I would not be surprised if they did go down that mediocrity route.
  - ileonichwiesz 6mo ago
    > How would a touchscreen MacBook improve on something? It won’t, but there’s now an entire generation of users who get confused and angry if any kind of display doesn’t react when you poke it with your finger.
  - bombcar 6mo ago
    If they're smart they won't do a touchscreen MacBook; they'll do an iPad that reveals macOS when you attach a keyboard.
- selimthegrim 6mo ago
  >they also briefly took away the ability to disable gatekeeper per terminal command (now back) Does this require a Tahoe upgrade?
  - merlindru 6mo ago
    i think they made it possible again in late sequoia but i may be totally off on the whole thing
aurareturn 6mo ago
If anything, Neo signals they will not merge macOS and iOS. Why would they if they just released a brand new MacBook? The SoC is just a way to differentiate from the Air and to keep costs low.
tristor 6mo ago
I would say the M5 Max MBP, Mac Studio, and the acceptance of Apple hardware as the pinnacle for personal local LLMs are good signs that they are not going to unify iOS and macOS.

nashashmi 6mo ago

I think they have the pathway to merge it right now. But it will cannibalize their sales so they dont want to do that.

merlindru 6mo ago

i hope you're wrong. they certainly have seemed to test the waters on many other fronts. the $99/yr notarization fee is now basically required as running unnotarized apps is made hard and scary enough to turn off probably 97% of average users they also briefly took away the ability to disable gatekeeper per terminal command (now back) next they wanna launch a touchscreen macbook, presumably this fall

roysting 6mo ago
I hope they don’t ever do a touchscreen MacBook. They already have every angle of that use case covered far better than the competition; either you get an iPad if you absolutely need to be pawing at a screen, or you have the excellent trackpads that are far and away par excellence. I don’t see how a touch screen on top of also the industry standard for screen quality will in any way improve by having greasy finger trails distorting the tiny pixels. Maybe I’m missing something. How would a touchscreen MacBook improve on something? That being said, based on what I’ve been seeing at Apple, I would not be surprised if they did go down that mediocrity route.
- ileonichwiesz 6mo ago
  > How would a touchscreen MacBook improve on something? It won’t, but there’s now an entire generation of users who get confused and angry if any kind of display doesn’t react when you poke it with your finger.
- bombcar 6mo ago
  If they're smart they won't do a touchscreen MacBook; they'll do an iPad that reveals macOS when you attach a keyboard.
selimthegrim 6mo ago
>they also briefly took away the ability to disable gatekeeper per terminal command (now back) Does this require a Tahoe upgrade?
- merlindru 6mo ago
  i think they made it possible again in late sequoia but i may be totally off on the whole thing

aurareturn 6mo ago

If anything, Neo signals they will not merge macOS and iOS. Why would they if they just released a brand new MacBook? The SoC is just a way to differentiate from the Air and to keep costs low.

tristor 6mo ago

I would say the M5 Max MBP, Mac Studio, and the acceptance of Apple hardware as the pinnacle for personal local LLMs are good signs that they are not going to unify iOS and macOS.