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That's not even as close to as smart of a gotcha as you think it is.

by _cenw 6mo ago

hrimfaxi 6mo ago
Can you explain why? I am surprised this kind of discrimination is allowed, too. I know some discrimination is allowed like for hooters, etc but that is more on the hiring side not on the customer options side.
- metabagel 6mo ago
  Because it's a legit safety concern not based on racism or bigotry.
  - akramachamarei 6mo ago
    Which are you referring to? /hj
Der_Einzige 6mo ago
Despite being only ~49% of the population, men commit: Around 79-80% of violent crimes (based on victim perceptions of offenders in National Crime Victimization Survey data and arrest statistics for violent offenses). 80%+ of arrests for violent crimes in older FBI Uniform Crime Reports breakdowns (e.g., 80.1% in 2012 data, with consistent patterns in later years). ~88-90% of homicides/murders (e.g., 88% of known murder offenders in 2019 FBI data; similar in recent years where males dominate offender stats for murder). How is this any different to "Despite making up only 13% of the population..." - https://knowyourmeme.com/sensitive/memes/despite-being-only-13-percent-of-the-population https://knowyourmeme.com/sensitive/memes/despite-being-only-...
- general1465 6mo ago
  > How is this any different to "Despite making up only 13% of the population..." It is not and that's why it is so hard to defend any kind of filtration based on gender.
  - mothballed 6mo ago
    Hence why instead they chose to just flag my comment to hide it since it couldn't be seriously addressed.
ray023 6mo ago
It has nothing do with smart, its just cold hard facts. You just to woke to see the contradiction.
ryandrake 6mo ago
Everyone is dunking on this, but nobody is really answering why offering a filter based on race (or religion, for that matter) isn't OK, but filtering on gender is OK.
- _cenw 6mo ago
  It's not primarily discrimination, though if you want to describe it as a side-effect, sure. We live in an imperfect world. Sexual assault is horrifyingly common and even normalized in banter in our culture. Whereas "black crime" is generally not based on reliable statistics because of overpolicing and luring you into a car is not exactly the MO there either.
  - hrimfaxi 6mo ago
    > (b) All persons within the jurisdiction of this state are free and equal, and no matter what their sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, genetic information, marital status, sexual orientation, citizenship, primary language, or immigration status are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments of every kind whatsoever. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CIV&sectionNum=51 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio... I wonder what the implications of a woman driver denying a man using this filter would be...discrimination based on a protected class?

That's not even as close to as smart of a gotcha as you think it is.

by _cenw 6mo ago

That's not even as close to as smart of a gotcha as you think it is.

Can you explain why? I am surprised this kind of discrimination is allowed, too. I know some discrimination is allowed like for hooters, etc but that is more on the hiring side not on the customer options side.

metabagel 6mo ago
Because it's a legit safety concern not based on racism or bigotry.
- akramachamarei 6mo ago
  Which are you referring to? /hj

Der_Einzige 6mo ago

Despite being only ~49% of the population, men commit: Around 79-80% of violent crimes (based on victim perceptions of offenders in National Crime Victimization Survey data and arrest statistics for violent offenses). 80%+ of arrests for violent crimes in older FBI Uniform Crime Reports breakdowns (e.g., 80.1% in 2012 data, with consistent patterns in later years). ~88-90% of homicides/murders (e.g., 88% of known murder offenders in 2019 FBI data; similar in recent years where males dominate offender stats for murder). How is this any different to "Despite making up only 13% of the population..." - https://knowyourmeme.com/sensitive/memes/despite-being-only-13-percent-of-the-population https://knowyourmeme.com/sensitive/memes/despite-being-only-...

general1465 6mo ago
> How is this any different to "Despite making up only 13% of the population..." It is not and that's why it is so hard to defend any kind of filtration based on gender.
- mothballed 6mo ago
  Hence why instead they chose to just flag my comment to hide it since it couldn't be seriously addressed.

ray023 6mo ago

It has nothing do with smart, its just cold hard facts. You just to woke to see the contradiction.

ryandrake 6mo ago

Everyone is dunking on this, but nobody is really answering why offering a filter based on race (or religion, for that matter) isn't OK, but filtering on gender is OK.

_cenw 6mo ago
It's not primarily discrimination, though if you want to describe it as a side-effect, sure. We live in an imperfect world. Sexual assault is horrifyingly common and even normalized in banter in our culture. Whereas "black crime" is generally not based on reliable statistics because of overpolicing and luring you into a car is not exactly the MO there either.
- hrimfaxi 6mo ago
  > (b) All persons within the jurisdiction of this state are free and equal, and no matter what their sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, genetic information, marital status, sexual orientation, citizenship, primary language, or immigration status are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments of every kind whatsoever. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CIV&sectionNum=51 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio... I wonder what the implications of a woman driver denying a man using this filter would be...discrimination based on a protected class?