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We need a modern HyperCard, I want to see more creative computing

by doawoo 6mo ago

oidar 6mo ago
Have you seen Decker: https://beyondloom.com/decker/ https://beyondloom.com/decker/
- hendersonreed 6mo ago
  there's a great blogpost explaining the creator's inspirations in hypercard also: https://beyondloom.com/blog/sketchpad.html https://beyondloom.com/blog/sketchpad.html
escapecharacter 6mo ago
in progress ;)
simquat 6mo ago
I'm working on it, Breadboard[0] is a visual app builder that mixes Figma-style UI design with Shortcuts-style logic. [0] https://breadboards.io/ https://breadboards.io/
afandian 6mo ago
I recently enjoyed this episode of Mac Folklore Radio. A surprising prescient discussion on HyperCard and hypertext. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mac-folklore-radio/id1428670055?i=1000465784581 https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mac-folklore-radio/id1...
hyperhello 6mo ago
There is this thing called the World Wide Web that does most of that.
- yjftsjthsd-h 6mo ago
  The web is sort of like hypercard, but it's not the same; in particular, the ease of creating things in hypercard is the important thing about it, and AFAIK that remains unmatched.
  - NetMageSCW 6mo ago
    Exactly - the Web is a PDF. Hypercard is a Word document.
    - hyperhello 6mo ago
      As someone who knows rather a lot about HyperCard: it was never allowed or positioned to fulfill its potential. There were easily fixable security issues ruining the opportunity to be the center of OS scripting. The UI was never rewritten for color and to match the Mac UI, which would not have been complicated either. The code must have been very difficult to upgrade, either technically or organizationally, because the entire upgrade run past 2.0 was so meager. It was a piece of genius, but in the end, only a piece.
tomcam 6mo ago
LiveCode is its spiritual successor IMHO. Cross platform too. https://livecode.com/ https://livecode.com/
- NetMageSCW 6mo ago
  Doesn’t really seem to get “it” to be a successor, or even a new VisualBasic.
NetMageSCW 6mo ago
A long term goal of mine, but I would create a desktop application as I don’t think there’s enough focus on those any more.
- doawoo 6mo ago
  I would love a local-first app, publish to web sure! but local first editor would be fantastic imo

We need a modern HyperCard, I want to see more creative computing

by doawoo 6mo ago

We need a modern HyperCard, I want to see more creative computing

oidar 6mo ago

Have you seen Decker: https://beyondloom.com/decker/ https://beyondloom.com/decker/

hendersonreed 6mo ago
there's a great blogpost explaining the creator's inspirations in hypercard also: https://beyondloom.com/blog/sketchpad.html https://beyondloom.com/blog/sketchpad.html

escapecharacter 6mo ago

in progress ;)

simquat 6mo ago

I'm working on it, Breadboard[0] is a visual app builder that mixes Figma-style UI design with Shortcuts-style logic. [0] https://breadboards.io/ https://breadboards.io/

afandian 6mo ago

I recently enjoyed this episode of Mac Folklore Radio. A surprising prescient discussion on HyperCard and hypertext. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mac-folklore-radio/id1428670055?i=1000465784581 https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mac-folklore-radio/id1...

hyperhello 6mo ago

There is this thing called the World Wide Web that does most of that.

yjftsjthsd-h 6mo ago
The web is sort of like hypercard, but it's not the same; in particular, the ease of creating things in hypercard is the important thing about it, and AFAIK that remains unmatched.
- NetMageSCW 6mo ago
  Exactly - the Web is a PDF. Hypercard is a Word document.
  - hyperhello 6mo ago
    As someone who knows rather a lot about HyperCard: it was never allowed or positioned to fulfill its potential. There were easily fixable security issues ruining the opportunity to be the center of OS scripting. The UI was never rewritten for color and to match the Mac UI, which would not have been complicated either. The code must have been very difficult to upgrade, either technically or organizationally, because the entire upgrade run past 2.0 was so meager. It was a piece of genius, but in the end, only a piece.

tomcam 6mo ago

LiveCode is its spiritual successor IMHO. Cross platform too. https://livecode.com/ https://livecode.com/

NetMageSCW 6mo ago
Doesn’t really seem to get “it” to be a successor, or even a new VisualBasic.

NetMageSCW 6mo ago

A long term goal of mine, but I would create a desktop application as I don’t think there’s enough focus on those any more.

doawoo 6mo ago
I would love a local-first app, publish to web sure! but local first editor would be fantastic imo