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This is exactly what I am feeling (the title, didn't read). I can't see why I would give a copy of my official id card or a picture of my face to a basic servic
by lkuty 7mo ago
This is exactly what I am feeling (the title, didn't read). I can't see why I would give a copy of my official id card or a picture of my face to a basic service on the Internet. Seriously ? They do not deserve it. Even my phone number is too much but well Google has it now.
- croes 7mo agoLuckily it’s already possible to verify your age without actually giving out any data like your birthdate
- LoganDark 7mo agoNot to a service that only accepts such data as proof.
- jermaustin1 7mo agoSteam thinks I was born Jan 1, 1970. Not that I needed to lie when I did my age verification back 15 years ago, I just randomly scrolled the year down and selected one. As the years have marched on, though, that "birthdate" becomes significantly closer to my real birthday.
- adithyassekhar 7mo ago> As the years have marched on, though, that "birthdate" becomes significantly closer to my real birthday. I understand there's a clever phrasing here but I didn't get it. English is only my second language.
- jjgreen 7mo agoWhen you're 10, a year is a long time, when you're 60 it is not. There's an implicit "relatively" here, which is unusual but not unknown in English. Almost poetic, I like it.
- adithyassekhar 7mo agoThanks now I understand. I am "only" 26, but I remember being 20 like yesterday. I can't believe I'm on the second half of the way to 50. COVID lockdowns and responsibilities didn't help. I feel time has gone faster since I got a job, if that makes sense. Every day yearning for it to be 5o clock so I can check out, every week yearning for the weekend, every month yearning for the last day to get paid. Doing this is just asking for time to be over sooner.
- Barbing 7mo agoWhen a 10-year-old registers for an adult website, they pretend they're 100 years old. Their age is 90 years different from the stated birthday. Eighty years later, the birth date is just as far off—but the implied age is now only 10 years off.
- adithyassekhar 7mo agoThanks this seems like the correct meaning rather than the other comment. But that is beautiful its own way, got me all philosophical.
- Barbing 7mo agoI liked that interpretation too!
- Dylan16807 7mo agoWe're keeping the same date here. 80 years later, the site thinks they're 180 years old. So it's still 90 years off, but now it's only 2x off instead of 10x off.
- Barbing 7mo agoOh! Thanks
- LoganDark 7mo agoIt becomes closer to their real birthday than their real birthday is to the present day.
- ambicapter 7mo agoThat doesn't make any sense, your fake age increases every year just like your real age.
- chneu 7mo agoBut it's closer to their real age in relation to the sum. And it makes up more of their life, ratio wise.
- flurdy 7mo agoOnly when chatting in a large channel at work, did I realise nearly 1/3 of the people there also set theirs as 1/1/1970. Which I presume is the first date that phisers will try to enter to reset people's accounts. I am fully aware that my standard fake birthday is now used by me in some many places, that I have started to have a fake fake birhday. I should really just randomise and store it in my password manager. But obviously the context of this OP story ruins all that.
- _heimdall 7mo agoAnd without having to trust that the government isn't keeping track of every request for age verification? I'd be curious how that might work as I haven't yet seen a zero-trust age verification system.
- raron 7mo agoThe age verification proposal of the EU tries to do that, the government knows you used age verification (and I think the rough number of times you used it), but they don't know when or where you used it. https://ageverification.dev/av-doc-technical-specification/docs/annexes/annex-B/annex-B-zkp/ https://ageverification.dev/av-doc-technical-specification/d...
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoThe EU passing a law about the internet? What could possibly go wrong?
- jim33442 7mo agoPlease drink verification can to verify that you have verified your cookie preferences
- _heimdall 7mo agoI can't imagine countries with such strict speech laws, for example, would be willing to build a system that is technically incapable of linking the person visiting a sire and the site requesting verification. This proposal may have been updated since I read it previously, so I could be wrong now, but it didn't read as a true zero-knowledge proof as key steps in the flow still required a level of trusting the government as the central authority to do the right thing and not track requests, both today and in the future.
- croes 7mo agoThe EU has more freedom of speech than the US, the US has just a different way of punishment. It’s much easier in the US to lose your job for what you say as in the EU and in the US the consequences of losing your job are more severe if you don’t have enough money so you can afford to lose it. US freedom of speech comes with a price tag that puts the censor inside your brain.
- reddalo 7mo agoGivin a copy of your ID card to a website? Damn. In my times, we didn't even use to provide our _real name_ to websites.
- thewebguyd 7mo agoIn fact, it was strongly recommended not to give out your real name on the internet. I'll stand by my opinion that deeply integrating the internet into our daily lives instead of keeping as a "place you go" was a huge mistake.