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Israel is 80 years old, I was born here and I’m 25 years old. The funny thing is my parents immigrated from Russia so you probably won’t want me there either (m
by null_deref 7mo ago
Israel is 80 years old, I was born here and I’m 25 years old. The funny thing is my parents immigrated from Russia so you probably won’t want me there either (me too). Your argument is bad.
- JasonADrury 7mo agoI feel like you're just repeating my point here rather than criticizing my argument in any way. Why should anyone be opposed to you living in Russia?
- null_deref 7mo agoBecause I’d have been used as a cannon fodder in the war in Ukraine. And then you’d criticize me for being a Russian soldier. Anyway your argument is bad in multiple layers, I don’t have any other passport and I live in a home that is younger than 80 years as most Israelis do
- JasonADrury 7mo ago> I don’t have any other passport You don't need one, it is very easy to emigrate to many western countries as an Israeli passport holder. There's also a chance you qualify for one of the EU citizenship schemes for jewish descendants. You don't have to choose to live in an apartheid state. At least if you only held a Russian passport you could plausibly claim that it's somewhat difficult to move anywhere nice. > I live in a home that is younger than 80 years as most Israelis do I guess that makes it better. Truly, a shining example of Israeli moral superiority. I can easily find ownership records going back more than 500 years for the land I live on. Odds are it'd be trivial to go even further. What about the land you live on? Who owned it 100 years ago and how'd it end up in your possession? How do you think those records would tend to look in Israel? What kind of stories do you think they would tell? Would it be a good look for Israeli people?
- null_deref 7mo agoOh Drop down from your high horse, let’s ask you what have you done for example for the environment have you quit your job to join a cause to for the environment? Have you stopped buying things from china? Have you completely stopped consuming fast fashion? I won’t leave my friends and family and rather fight for the values of this country from here
- JasonADrury 7mo ago>Oh Drop down from your high horse, let’s ask you what have you done for example for the environment have you quit your job to join a cause to for the environment? Have you stopped buying things from china? Have you completely stopped consuming fast fashion? I hope this particularly weak whataboutism helps you feel better about your indefensible moral position. > fight for the values of this country from here Apartheid being one of the core values worth fighting for, apparently.
- null_deref 7mo agoHaha you literally asking me to leave my roots and friends and family and I have a weak arguments? Your arguments detached from reality. I cut my salary to be involved politically, I believe in a future of peace. You can rest assured I engage in what’s right far more than you
- JasonADrury 7mo ago> I believe in a future of peace What does that look like to you? I'm sure Hamas would say the same, it's just about how that peace is reached and how it looks like in the end. The typical Israeli vision of peace isn't any better than the typical Palestinian vision of peace.
- null_deref 7mo agoI’m not a politician nor all the information is available to me on what can be done and what not My moral compass says the following - 1. First of all securing our own democracy from all the internal authoritarian movements 2. Creating a situation were any Palestinian can live respectfully, feed their family and get education From there state decision should be far more easier.
- tome 7mo ago> Why should anyone be opposed to you living in Russia? I don't know. Why did the Cossacks oppose Jews living in Russia?
- notenlish 7mo agoFounded 80 years ago on stolen land.
- mdni007 7mo agoYour parents "immigrated" from Russia to steal land. You should be blaming your parents. Your argument is bad.
- null_deref 7mo agoIs this what every American tell themselves when they wake up in the morning? Or that what every Arab says to himself outside of Yemen, Saudi and Oman?
- mdni007 7mo agoYes every morning I wake up and think, why are my tax dollars going towards a parasitic entity who has taken complete control over our government to fight it's wars for them when we can barely afford basic necessities at home.
- halflife 7mo agoSo Texas should be returned to Mexico, right?
- JasonADrury 7mo agoThis works so much better when there are living people who care.