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Drivers reeling after passengers caught out by AI-powered safety cameras

15 points by ahonhn 7mo ago

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ungreased0675 7mo ago
Australia has an enormous amount of traffic cameras and hand out tickets like I hand out candy on Halloween.
fragmede 7mo ago
self driving cars can't come fast enough
- salawat 7mo ago
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gnabgib 7mo ago
Western Australia drivers reeling after passengers caught out by AI cameras Don't know why OP dropped an important regional distinction.. not a problem in Honduras, for example. Or Washington state
- ahonhn 7mo ago
  A HN audience is so sure to parse "WA" as Washington state that leaving it in the title would be misleading with every second response along the lines of "I only clicked because I thought it was Washington". Should it be expanded to "Aussie"? (since "West Australian", "Australian", "Sandgroper", or "Doubleyooalien drivers" doesn't fit the title field). I reckon the location is secondary and the interesting part is about technology enabling universal and intrusive enforcement of easy to break rules that were previously difficult to enforce absolutely. Such rules tend to have rather draconian 'example making' penalties attached to them because of that. Is AI camera enforcement 'not a problem' in Honduras or Washington State because they don't use them there yet? Is seeing how it pans out somewhere else first of no interest to them?
  - 1123581321 7mo ago
    W.Aus. maybe? As many characters as Aussie. I didn’t have a problem finding out it was WA from the article, though.
ehnto 7mo ago
I am very torn on this, because something absolutely needs to be done about phone usage while driving as it's just genuinely shocking. On the other hand, such pervasive and ever present law enforcement is oppressive. If the majority of your citizens are breaking a law, then your citizenship clearly thinks the law is unnecessary. We give road laws a pass because safety is quite provable through studies and we listen to our researchers, but if we scaled this out to all crimes (like jaywalking) I think you would see just about everyone is a criminal eventually.
- jackvalentine 7mo ago
  > If the majority of your citizens are breaking a law, then your citizenship clearly thinks the law is unnecessary. Which law do you think the majority of the citizenship here is breaking?
  - ehnto 7mo ago
    I'm not thinking of any, we wouldn't know until we had infallible ever present enforcement.
- yunnpp 7mo ago
  > because something absolutely needs to be done about phone usage while driving as it's just genuinely shocking. It's actually very simple. Put a cop by the sidewalk, have them stop people and issue a fine. You'd be making several grand every day. I would do it myself, but I am not authorized to stop people and take their money. There is no need for cameras when the violations are so blatantly obvious and recurring.
  - ehnto 7mo ago
    They did this for a while, I don't know what the outcome was.
- tencentshill 7mo ago
  In a democracy, that policy would get you removed from office. Don't hassle your own voters.
metalman 7mo ago
I think it's great how beurocrats are institutionalising everything, everywhere, at least for people who work, sort of a prequil to the way the same technology is bieng use for genocide in Palestine, with of course the profits from these operations, going to funding the genocide, directly.

15 points by ahonhn 7mo ago

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ungreased0675 7mo ago

Australia has an enormous amount of traffic cameras and hand out tickets like I hand out candy on Halloween.

fragmede 7mo ago

self driving cars can't come fast enough

salawat 7mo ago
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gnabgib 7mo ago

Western Australia drivers reeling after passengers caught out by AI cameras Don't know why OP dropped an important regional distinction.. not a problem in Honduras, for example. Or Washington state

ahonhn 7mo ago
A HN audience is so sure to parse "WA" as Washington state that leaving it in the title would be misleading with every second response along the lines of "I only clicked because I thought it was Washington". Should it be expanded to "Aussie"? (since "West Australian", "Australian", "Sandgroper", or "Doubleyooalien drivers" doesn't fit the title field). I reckon the location is secondary and the interesting part is about technology enabling universal and intrusive enforcement of easy to break rules that were previously difficult to enforce absolutely. Such rules tend to have rather draconian 'example making' penalties attached to them because of that. Is AI camera enforcement 'not a problem' in Honduras or Washington State because they don't use them there yet? Is seeing how it pans out somewhere else first of no interest to them?
- 1123581321 7mo ago
  W.Aus. maybe? As many characters as Aussie. I didn’t have a problem finding out it was WA from the article, though.

ehnto 7mo ago

I am very torn on this, because something absolutely needs to be done about phone usage while driving as it's just genuinely shocking. On the other hand, such pervasive and ever present law enforcement is oppressive. If the majority of your citizens are breaking a law, then your citizenship clearly thinks the law is unnecessary. We give road laws a pass because safety is quite provable through studies and we listen to our researchers, but if we scaled this out to all crimes (like jaywalking) I think you would see just about everyone is a criminal eventually.

jackvalentine 7mo ago
> If the majority of your citizens are breaking a law, then your citizenship clearly thinks the law is unnecessary. Which law do you think the majority of the citizenship here is breaking?
- ehnto 7mo ago
  I'm not thinking of any, we wouldn't know until we had infallible ever present enforcement.
yunnpp 7mo ago
> because something absolutely needs to be done about phone usage while driving as it's just genuinely shocking. It's actually very simple. Put a cop by the sidewalk, have them stop people and issue a fine. You'd be making several grand every day. I would do it myself, but I am not authorized to stop people and take their money. There is no need for cameras when the violations are so blatantly obvious and recurring.
- ehnto 7mo ago
  They did this for a while, I don't know what the outcome was.
tencentshill 7mo ago
In a democracy, that policy would get you removed from office. Don't hassle your own voters.

metalman 7mo ago

I think it's great how beurocrats are institutionalising everything, everywhere, at least for people who work, sort of a prequil to the way the same technology is bieng use for genocide in Palestine, with of course the profits from these operations, going to funding the genocide, directly.