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I never understood this UI problem. Because... You can copy the UI of the leader and problem solved. There you have GIMP with an absolute nightmare UI to use,

I never understood this UI problem. Because... You can copy the UI of the leader and problem solved. There you have GIMP with an absolute nightmare UI to use, but people keep saying, just get used to it. On the other hand, a single developer, in javascript, made a copy of photoshop, and most people I know prefer to use that over GIMP... Just copy the UI that works, if you can't research your own UI.

imtringued 7mo ago
>Because... You can copy the UI of the leader and problem solved. For whatever reason, the FreeCAD community is explicitly against taking note from competitors. Copying the UI of the leader is a thoughtcrime.
- rounce 7mo ago
  No it isn’t, stop being silly.
andrewshadura 7mo ago
Why do you think GIMP is a nightmare? I don’t find it problematic at all. The only issue I’m hitting once in a while is that I click on a button on the toolbar, and I guess I hit its edge, as I doesn’t switch modes. Other than that, I don’t have any complaints at all. What are yours?
- sho_hn 7mo ago
  It's mostly a received holdover opinion from the days when Gimp still defaulted to being strongly multi-windowed. The people who keep repeating it probably haven't used Gimp for a while. The usability may still not match Photoshop, but at this point the Gimp UI is largely conventional for this genre of software. Popular opinions take ages to shift sadly.
  - mixmastamyk 7mo ago
    Yes, I learned on Paint Shop Pro and have used many image editors over the years. GIMP is very similar to the rest of them.
- erremerre 7mo ago
  Adding a text that has a couple of pixel white borders is something possible in GIMP, yet a nightmare compared with photopea which just copy cs2 way of doing it. And that is without having to edit the text in case you made a tipo. Now, if we are talking about doing batch image editing in python. Gimp us the best tool I've found.
rabf 7mo ago
I use GIMP and FreeCAD quite often and find them very powerful programs, but maybe I'm some sort of genius? I think where these programs don't do well is among the crowd who expect to be able to just click around an advanced piece of software and somehow it just works to get things done! For basic apps this is a reasonable expectation, but CAD is not a simple process. PS: I've still not managed to learn Blender, not put enough hours in, it is a hugely complex beast of a program that basically requires keyboard shortcut use imho. That interface (beautiful as it is) has so many options that even if I know what I'm looking for I can't find it!
- amelius 7mo ago
  Yeah, to use these UIs you gotta think like a programmer.
- jcgrillo 7mo ago
  Part of what made Blender accessible around 2001-2002 when I was using it regularly was a really great paperback book[1] that served as a tutorial and reference. The UX was strange to be sure but after reading through the ~200 pages and getting acclimatized, it all began to feel sensible. If not for that book I would have bounced off Blender and never looked back. [1] https://www.abebooks.com/Blender-Book-Carsten-Wartmann-Starch-Pr/31317168788/bd https://www.abebooks.com/Blender-Book-Carsten-Wartmann-Starc...
qup 7mo ago
Do you mean photopea? Great alternative in-browser.
- erremerre 7mo ago
  I do, it is indeed. I'm always surprised that a single developer in javascript managed to do it.
  - qup 7mo ago
    Same. When I first saw it, I couldn't believe that was possible in the browser. It makes me want to investigate that style of application. I think it even works offline.
rounce 7mo ago
> There you have GIMP with an absolute nightmare UI to use, but people keep saying, just get used to it. Which is something I find odd that so many people seem to assume GIMP as the de-facto open source photoshop alternative when Krita is more analogous and much easier to use.
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weezing 7mo ago
What's the name of said copy? Would gladly test it because I have a hard time with Linux right now due to not being able to just use Photoshop. Currently trying Krita and it's alright, because GIMP is just unusable.
- fainpul 7mo ago
  https://www.photopea.com/ https://www.photopea.com/

imtringued 7mo ago

>Because... You can copy the UI of the leader and problem solved. For whatever reason, the FreeCAD community is explicitly against taking note from competitors. Copying the UI of the leader is a thoughtcrime.

rounce 7mo ago
No it isn’t, stop being silly.

andrewshadura 7mo ago

Why do you think GIMP is a nightmare? I don’t find it problematic at all. The only issue I’m hitting once in a while is that I click on a button on the toolbar, and I guess I hit its edge, as I doesn’t switch modes. Other than that, I don’t have any complaints at all. What are yours?

sho_hn 7mo ago
It's mostly a received holdover opinion from the days when Gimp still defaulted to being strongly multi-windowed. The people who keep repeating it probably haven't used Gimp for a while. The usability may still not match Photoshop, but at this point the Gimp UI is largely conventional for this genre of software. Popular opinions take ages to shift sadly.
- mixmastamyk 7mo ago
  Yes, I learned on Paint Shop Pro and have used many image editors over the years. GIMP is very similar to the rest of them.
erremerre 7mo ago
Adding a text that has a couple of pixel white borders is something possible in GIMP, yet a nightmare compared with photopea which just copy cs2 way of doing it. And that is without having to edit the text in case you made a tipo. Now, if we are talking about doing batch image editing in python. Gimp us the best tool I've found.

rabf 7mo ago

I use GIMP and FreeCAD quite often and find them very powerful programs, but maybe I'm some sort of genius? I think where these programs don't do well is among the crowd who expect to be able to just click around an advanced piece of software and somehow it just works to get things done! For basic apps this is a reasonable expectation, but CAD is not a simple process. PS: I've still not managed to learn Blender, not put enough hours in, it is a hugely complex beast of a program that basically requires keyboard shortcut use imho. That interface (beautiful as it is) has so many options that even if I know what I'm looking for I can't find it!

amelius 7mo ago
Yeah, to use these UIs you gotta think like a programmer.
jcgrillo 7mo ago
Part of what made Blender accessible around 2001-2002 when I was using it regularly was a really great paperback book[1] that served as a tutorial and reference. The UX was strange to be sure but after reading through the ~200 pages and getting acclimatized, it all began to feel sensible. If not for that book I would have bounced off Blender and never looked back. [1] https://www.abebooks.com/Blender-Book-Carsten-Wartmann-Starch-Pr/31317168788/bd https://www.abebooks.com/Blender-Book-Carsten-Wartmann-Starc...

qup 7mo ago

Do you mean photopea? Great alternative in-browser.

erremerre 7mo ago
I do, it is indeed. I'm always surprised that a single developer in javascript managed to do it.
- qup 7mo ago
  Same. When I first saw it, I couldn't believe that was possible in the browser. It makes me want to investigate that style of application. I think it even works offline.

rounce 7mo ago

> There you have GIMP with an absolute nightmare UI to use, but people keep saying, just get used to it. Which is something I find odd that so many people seem to assume GIMP as the de-facto open source photoshop alternative when Krita is more analogous and much easier to use.

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weezing 7mo ago

What's the name of said copy? Would gladly test it because I have a hard time with Linux right now due to not being able to just use Photoshop. Currently trying Krita and it's alright, because GIMP is just unusable.

fainpul 7mo ago
https://www.photopea.com/ https://www.photopea.com/