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You're a user of jq in the sense of the comment you're replying to, not a developer. The developer is the developer _of jq_, not developers in general.
by hexaga 7mo ago
You're a user of jq in the sense of the comment you're replying to, not a developer. The developer is the developer _of jq_, not developers in general.
- tptacek 7mo agoWe're talking about Show HN here.
- fhd2 7mo agoYes, that's exactly how I meant it. I might _rarely_ peruse some code if I'm really curious about it, but by and large I just trust the developers of the software I use and don't really care how it works. I care about what it does.
- agentultra 7mo agoAs a developer of software I often have to care because it matters and so I read the code. Source code is often written for other humans first and foremost.
- abustamam 7mo agoI've had to dig into node modules to try to debug code from a closed source library that we depended on. I'd much rather wade through AI slop than minified code, which may have previously been AI slop.
- skydhash 7mo agoMinified code is not for humans, it may as well been bytecode.
- abustamam 7mo agoAgreed! That's why I told my llm to help me. But I think larger point being, it's not always feasible for humans to understand every line of code that runs in their software.
- skydhash 7mo agoThat’s where accountability comes in. It should be possible to have a non empty set of people that understand all the code. If I choose a dep to do unicode string parsing, that means I trust the author have good knowledge about unicode string parsing. And they should have the skills to maintain their code even if what I got is bytecoded or compiled.
- amarant 7mo agoWhat do you mean, you can't quote the Linux kernel by heart? I thought it was gospel for all nerds: Loongarch kernel, first paragraph, the lord Linus said, in all his wisdom: /* Hardware capabilities */ unsigned int elf_hwcap __read_mostly EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(elf_hwcap)
- agentultra 7mo agoBoth can be equally bad. Especially if you could get the source of the minified dependency and find that it is also slop. What a world when we’re playing Would you rather with people’s property and information.
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