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Mozilla laid off the Servo team years ago.

by snerbles 7mo ago

tvshtr 7mo ago
Servo was passed onto Linux Foundation and is still being developed, some of its components are shared with Firefox.
- rvz 7mo ago
  Yet, after all these years its browser is quite frankly pre-historic.
  - tvshtr 7mo ago
    What are you talking about? It doesn't have a "browser", it has a testing shell. For a time there was actual attempt with the Verso experiment but it got shelved just recently. Servo is working at being embeddable at the same time when Rust GUI toolkits are maturing. Once it gets embedding stabilized that will be the time for a full blown browser developement.
    - rvz 7mo ago
      > It doesn't have a "browser", it has a testing shell. So, yes it is still pre-historic. > Once it gets embedding stabilized that will be the time for a full blown browser developement. Servo development began in 2012. [0] 14 years later we get a v0.0.1. At this point, Ladybird will likely reach 1.0 faster than Servo could, and the latter is not even remotely close to being usable even in 14 years of waiting. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software)
      - tvshtr 7mo ago
        This is disingenuous. Servo is using RUST, language which grew together with it, pretty much, and all components surrounding it. C++ is how old, please remind me?
        Dylan16807 7mo ago
        You could make almost any non-C non-C++ project good by that metric. And no, they're not being disingenuous.
      - echelon 7mo ago
        > At this point, Ladybird will likely reach 1.0 faster than Servo could, and the latter is not even remotely close to being usable even in 14 years of waiting. When Servo is done, it's going to be a beast. It's getting hundreds of commits per week: https://github.com/servo/servo/graphs/commit-activity https://github.com/servo/servo/graphs/commit-activity
      - snerbles 7mo ago
        It's by no means accurate, but the comparative histories of Ladybird vs. Servo sure has some parallels with Linux vs. GNU Hurd.
  - vsgherzi 7mo ago
    Servo's history is much more complicated and originally was planned to be used for the holo lens before the layoff. Comparing trajectory doesn't make sense they had completely different goals and directions.

Mozilla laid off the Servo team years ago.

tvshtr 7mo ago

Servo was passed onto Linux Foundation and is still being developed, some of its components are shared with Firefox.

rvz 7mo ago
Yet, after all these years its browser is quite frankly pre-historic.
- tvshtr 7mo ago
  What are you talking about? It doesn't have a "browser", it has a testing shell. For a time there was actual attempt with the Verso experiment but it got shelved just recently. Servo is working at being embeddable at the same time when Rust GUI toolkits are maturing. Once it gets embedding stabilized that will be the time for a full blown browser developement.
  - rvz 7mo ago
    > It doesn't have a "browser", it has a testing shell. So, yes it is still pre-historic. > Once it gets embedding stabilized that will be the time for a full blown browser developement. Servo development began in 2012. [0] 14 years later we get a v0.0.1. At this point, Ladybird will likely reach 1.0 faster than Servo could, and the latter is not even remotely close to being usable even in 14 years of waiting. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software)
    - tvshtr 7mo ago
      This is disingenuous. Servo is using RUST, language which grew together with it, pretty much, and all components surrounding it. C++ is how old, please remind me?
      - Dylan16807 7mo ago
        You could make almost any non-C non-C++ project good by that metric. And no, they're not being disingenuous.
    - echelon 7mo ago
      > At this point, Ladybird will likely reach 1.0 faster than Servo could, and the latter is not even remotely close to being usable even in 14 years of waiting. When Servo is done, it's going to be a beast. It's getting hundreds of commits per week: https://github.com/servo/servo/graphs/commit-activity https://github.com/servo/servo/graphs/commit-activity
    - snerbles 7mo ago
      It's by no means accurate, but the comparative histories of Ladybird vs. Servo sure has some parallels with Linux vs. GNU Hurd.
- vsgherzi 7mo ago
  Servo's history is much more complicated and originally was planned to be used for the holo lens before the layoff. Comparing trajectory doesn't make sense they had completely different goals and directions.