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Kim Dotcom says Palantir allegedly hacked

42 points by hooch 7mo ago

toomuchtodo 7mo ago
https://archive.today/i5YU1 https://archive.today/i5YU1
Trasmatta 7mo ago
I don't feel like Kim Dotcom is a reliable or trustworthy source. Most of what he said isn't really surprising though, but this completely stretches credulity: > Palantir is creating nuclear and bio weapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. It reads like Kim Dotcom fan fiction. Not even mentioning the gross antisemitism in the replies that he's agreeing with. I hate Palantir and think they're evil, but this post is just silly.
- cjbenedikt 7mo ago
  Agreed. Palantir isn't likely "creating" anything but data.
  - Loughla 7mo ago
    Isn't creating things today just manipulating data?
    - cjbenedikt 7mo ago
      Yes, manipulating sounds more real than " creating".
- arduanika 7mo ago
  Yes. Thank you to hooch for prefacing this submission with "Kim Dotcom says", which really helps us to calibrate our trust of the claims!
cjbenedikt 7mo ago
Not sure of the hacking - but wouldn't rule out the Palantir assumptions.
22c 7mo ago
> An AI agent was used to gain super-user access No telling if this "hack" wasn't really just prompt engineering followed by hallucinations, particularly if the "hacker" was attempting to exfil data via the agent.
- Trasmatta 7mo ago
  That line also sounds exactly like the pseudo tech BS somebody will come up with to try to make something sound legitimate I wonder how the AI agent managed to bypass the HTML5 mainframe firewall
  - cicko 7mo ago
    It was a secret agent.
0xbadcafebee 7mo ago
Why is anyone upvoting this? It's incredibly stupid. There was supposedly "a hack" of a corporation that specializes in security, and these hackers just happened to discover 1) backdoors in world leaders' devices, 2) an archive of blackmail material, 3) transcribed conversations of world leaders, 4) evidence of the development of nuclear and bioterror weapons specifically for ukraine against russia, 5) evidence of Palantir being responsible for "most" (??) deaths in Gaza, 6) all of this will be given to China "and/or" Russia, but 7) they kindly gave it all to Kim Dotcom for safe keeping. It's like a 4chan post by an 11 year old. His Twitter feed looks like he's mentally ill.
runjake 7mo ago
Kim Dotcom isn't trustworthy for a number of reasons. The prime one being, in this case, that he's collaborating with others to short Palantir stock[1], and accordingly has a serious conflict of interest. 1. https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/2007336014889791701 https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/2007336014889791701
- luke5441 7mo ago
  Idk, unfortunately if they are really capable of all this, would sound bullish to me.
- woodpanel 7mo ago
  Interesting, I always thought of Palantir to be more isolated from possible AI bubble bursts bc of government contracts. IF the allegations are true this would change things, but I’m not sure if this would be a permanent correction or just a temporary slip.
MisterTea 7mo ago
> The Palentir data the hackers allegedly gathered will be given to Russia and/or China. How is China or Russia more trustworthy than Canada, an EU nation, India, Brazil, Cameroon, etc.? It's like saying "I hacked the Gambino crime family but I'm handing the secrets over to the Bonannos and/or the Genovese." I smell bullshit.
markus_zhang 7mo ago
He is not providing any hard proof so I just went to Walmart to grab some salt.
deleted 7mo ago
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13415 7mo ago
That sounds like major bullshit to me.
globalnode 7mo ago
I don't think Kim Dotcom or Palantir are trustworthy. So the information is useless in the sense that it could be truth or lies. The only people who this information might be useful to are probably spies for other countries that would have some idea as to whether what theyre seeing matches other data points. And that aint' me so idgaf.
- burnt-resistor 7mo ago
  Kremlin A (RU), Kremlin B (US), and most billionaires are battling for supremacy in a multitude of theaters.
pengaru 7mo ago
somebody needs attention
usrusr 7mo ago
Given the level of totally bonkers I feel tempted to suggest that it's a hit piece indirectly commissioned by palantir themselves so that they can for once appear as the good guys in a news story
HeavyStorm 7mo ago
Yeah, they are also the devil incarnate and Damien lives at their basement.
starkeeper 7mo ago
I believe Palantir would be SUPER down as cast like an evil super villian world corporation complete with secret satanic rituals. Peter Theil is Lawful Evil. (or Unlawful to be more accurate).
FrankWilhoit 7mo ago
If this were true, the very last thing he would do would be to brag about it -- until after all of the potential consequences of it had been achieved.
- snowe2010 7mo ago
  Somebody said he’s shorting the stock
comrade1234 7mo ago
Torrent out yet?
sleepyguy 7mo ago
If Plantir is helping Ukraine to wipe out Russia, God Bless them. Hopefully Kim gets a nice prison cell where he can rot the rest of his life.
- woodpanel 7mo ago
  Interesting, why would you hope for him to be jailed for life? Bc of a tweet?
  - sleepyguy 7mo ago
    Because he broke the law. His entire career/business was based on theft.
burnt-resistor 7mo ago
This seems like a (counter-)disinfo campaign. Multiple, vague, wild claims without evidence are always extremely sus. If (and it's a very big if) it were true, the presentation of it comes across as extremely false. I'm disappointed slightly, but not all dissidents are created morally or ethically superior.
nick1024 7mo ago
It doesn't pass the smell test at all... https://youtu.be/WM-zSm56NCM?si=uzRvcTSnoXV4m2pq https://youtu.be/WM-zSm56NCM?si=uzRvcTSnoXV4m2pq
duxup 7mo ago
This reads like a 4chan fantasy.
ErwinX 7mo ago
... wasn't there once a glitch reported in 2019 which allowed unauthorized FBI personnel to access private data for more than a year [The New York Post] this according to a letter by prosecutors in the Manhattan federal court case against accused hacker Virgil Griffith. Obviously Palantir denied the claims in a statement and said the fault was caused by the FBI's incorrect use of the software ... .. isn't this, the "incorrect" use of a software, always the first entry point of every hack ... ...
ErwinX 7mo ago
... wasn't there a glitch reported in 2019 which allowed unauthorized FBI personnel to access private data for more than a year [The New York Post] according to a letter by prosecutors in the Manhattan federal court case against accused hacker Virgil Griffith. Obviously Palantir denied the claims in a statement and said the fault was caused by the FBI's incorrect use of the software ... isn't this, the "incorrect" use of a software, always the entry point of every hack ...
jhanschoo 7mo ago
This is like a 4chan teenager's fantasy of what Palantir is capable of.

42 points by hooch 7mo ago

https://archive.today/i5YU1 https://archive.today/i5YU1

I don't feel like Kim Dotcom is a reliable or trustworthy source. Most of what he said isn't really surprising though, but this completely stretches credulity: > Palantir is creating nuclear and bio weapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. It reads like Kim Dotcom fan fiction. Not even mentioning the gross antisemitism in the replies that he's agreeing with. I hate Palantir and think they're evil, but this post is just silly.

cjbenedikt 7mo ago
Agreed. Palantir isn't likely "creating" anything but data.
- Loughla 7mo ago
  Isn't creating things today just manipulating data?
  - cjbenedikt 7mo ago
    Yes, manipulating sounds more real than " creating".
arduanika 7mo ago
Yes. Thank you to hooch for prefacing this submission with "Kim Dotcom says", which really helps us to calibrate our trust of the claims!

cjbenedikt 7mo ago

Not sure of the hacking - but wouldn't rule out the Palantir assumptions.

22c 7mo ago

> An AI agent was used to gain super-user access No telling if this "hack" wasn't really just prompt engineering followed by hallucinations, particularly if the "hacker" was attempting to exfil data via the agent.

Trasmatta 7mo ago
That line also sounds exactly like the pseudo tech BS somebody will come up with to try to make something sound legitimate I wonder how the AI agent managed to bypass the HTML5 mainframe firewall
- cicko 7mo ago
  It was a secret agent.

0xbadcafebee 7mo ago

Why is anyone upvoting this? It's incredibly stupid. There was supposedly "a hack" of a corporation that specializes in security, and these hackers just happened to discover 1) backdoors in world leaders' devices, 2) an archive of blackmail material, 3) transcribed conversations of world leaders, 4) evidence of the development of nuclear and bioterror weapons specifically for ukraine against russia, 5) evidence of Palantir being responsible for "most" (??) deaths in Gaza, 6) all of this will be given to China "and/or" Russia, but 7) they kindly gave it all to Kim Dotcom for safe keeping. It's like a 4chan post by an 11 year old. His Twitter feed looks like he's mentally ill.

runjake 7mo ago

Kim Dotcom isn't trustworthy for a number of reasons. The prime one being, in this case, that he's collaborating with others to short Palantir stock[1], and accordingly has a serious conflict of interest. 1. https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/2007336014889791701 https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/2007336014889791701

luke5441 7mo ago
Idk, unfortunately if they are really capable of all this, would sound bullish to me.
woodpanel 7mo ago
Interesting, I always thought of Palantir to be more isolated from possible AI bubble bursts bc of government contracts. IF the allegations are true this would change things, but I’m not sure if this would be a permanent correction or just a temporary slip.

MisterTea 7mo ago

> The Palentir data the hackers allegedly gathered will be given to Russia and/or China. How is China or Russia more trustworthy than Canada, an EU nation, India, Brazil, Cameroon, etc.? It's like saying "I hacked the Gambino crime family but I'm handing the secrets over to the Bonannos and/or the Genovese." I smell bullshit.

markus_zhang 7mo ago

He is not providing any hard proof so I just went to Walmart to grab some salt.

deleted 7mo ago

[deleted]

13415 7mo ago

That sounds like major bullshit to me.

globalnode 7mo ago

I don't think Kim Dotcom or Palantir are trustworthy. So the information is useless in the sense that it could be truth or lies. The only people who this information might be useful to are probably spies for other countries that would have some idea as to whether what theyre seeing matches other data points. And that aint' me so idgaf.

burnt-resistor 7mo ago
Kremlin A (RU), Kremlin B (US), and most billionaires are battling for supremacy in a multitude of theaters.

pengaru 7mo ago

somebody needs attention

usrusr 7mo ago

Given the level of totally bonkers I feel tempted to suggest that it's a hit piece indirectly commissioned by palantir themselves so that they can for once appear as the good guys in a news story

HeavyStorm 7mo ago

Yeah, they are also the devil incarnate and Damien lives at their basement.

starkeeper 7mo ago

I believe Palantir would be SUPER down as cast like an evil super villian world corporation complete with secret satanic rituals. Peter Theil is Lawful Evil. (or Unlawful to be more accurate).

FrankWilhoit 7mo ago

If this were true, the very last thing he would do would be to brag about it -- until after all of the potential consequences of it had been achieved.

snowe2010 7mo ago
Somebody said he’s shorting the stock

comrade1234 7mo ago

Torrent out yet?

sleepyguy 7mo ago

If Plantir is helping Ukraine to wipe out Russia, God Bless them. Hopefully Kim gets a nice prison cell where he can rot the rest of his life.

woodpanel 7mo ago
Interesting, why would you hope for him to be jailed for life? Bc of a tweet?
- sleepyguy 7mo ago
  Because he broke the law. His entire career/business was based on theft.

burnt-resistor 7mo ago

This seems like a (counter-)disinfo campaign. Multiple, vague, wild claims without evidence are always extremely sus. If (and it's a very big if) it were true, the presentation of it comes across as extremely false. I'm disappointed slightly, but not all dissidents are created morally or ethically superior.

nick1024 7mo ago

It doesn't pass the smell test at all... https://youtu.be/WM-zSm56NCM?si=uzRvcTSnoXV4m2pq https://youtu.be/WM-zSm56NCM?si=uzRvcTSnoXV4m2pq

duxup 7mo ago

This reads like a 4chan fantasy.

ErwinX 7mo ago

... wasn't there once a glitch reported in 2019 which allowed unauthorized FBI personnel to access private data for more than a year [The New York Post] this according to a letter by prosecutors in the Manhattan federal court case against accused hacker Virgil Griffith. Obviously Palantir denied the claims in a statement and said the fault was caused by the FBI's incorrect use of the software ... .. isn't this, the "incorrect" use of a software, always the first entry point of every hack ... ...

ErwinX 7mo ago

... wasn't there a glitch reported in 2019 which allowed unauthorized FBI personnel to access private data for more than a year [The New York Post] according to a letter by prosecutors in the Manhattan federal court case against accused hacker Virgil Griffith. Obviously Palantir denied the claims in a statement and said the fault was caused by the FBI's incorrect use of the software ... isn't this, the "incorrect" use of a software, always the entry point of every hack ...

jhanschoo 7mo ago

This is like a 4chan teenager's fantasy of what Palantir is capable of.