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Their software quality really went downhill in recent years, really hope whoever comes in after Cook treats it as priority
by inferniac 7mo ago
Their software quality really went downhill in recent years, really hope whoever comes in after Cook treats it as priority
- PlatoIsADisease 7mo agoRecent? They have been last to get Widgets. They don't have apps I use (terminals, emulators, pulse wave generators). Not to mention Gemini AI is actually really nice for scanning a screen and doing actions with it. Apple is always 2nd place or worse. Except marketing, they are #1.
- karlshea 7mo ago"Quality" and "features you happen to want" are two different things.
- metabagel 7mo agoTheir hardware is world class. Software? Not so much.
- soperj 7mo agoThey sold the Macbook air with Broadwell processors for over 3 years. They only changed the processors because intel discontinued them. They skipped 3 generations of processors.
- wtallis 7mo agoIt would also be fair to say they didn't skip any generation of processors with that gap in updates, they merely sat out the first two years of Intel shipping Skylake five years in a row. And in the meantime, they did use those first two years of Skylake for the 12" MacBook; the next update to the MacBook Air was after the last update the 12" MacBook ever got. For a while, the 12" MacBook was the more premium, thinner and lighter alternative to the MacBook Air with more advanced technology (and could plausibly have been construed as the intended successor to the MacBook Air), then in 2018 they merged back together with the introduction of the first MacBook Air with a Retina Display.
- soperj 7mo agoI'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. They sold old hardware for the same price 3 years later as if it was a premium product. They didn't really have an excuse, they've been the most valuable public company on earth since like 2010.
- wtallis 7mo agoSelling an old model for a few years after its replacement shows up is not unusual. The only thing unusual here is that the 12" MacBook didn't end up actually replacing the MacBook Air in the long run, and the next major iteration went back to being called "MacBook Air". The three-year gap in processor updates you're complaining about disappears when you recognize the 12" MacBook as an attempt to move the product line in a different direction, which Apple partially backtracked on after a few years. That course correction was quite a bit quicker than for the Touch Bar MBPs and the trash can Mac Pro.
- soperj 7mo ago> disappears when you recognize the 12" MacBook as an attempt to move the product line in a different direction, which Apple partially backtracked on after a few years. and if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle. As far as I can glean this was never something that they intended to do.
- wtallis 7mo agoThat's entirely you choosing to ignore real and relevant products that Apple shipped during the time period you claim they were doing nothing. If you're looking for some kind of absolute consistency in when and how Apple uses the "Air" modifier on their product names, you haven't been paying attention.
- soperj 7mo agoI'm not really ignoring anything. They shipped real Macbook Airs for years with outdated processors, hence Hardware isn't first class.
- PlatoIsADisease 7mo agoWhat do you mean? For a phone? Are people doing anything on a phone that you can't do on an Android? Be realistic, not idealistic or giving test situations that no one actually uses. On desktop? Uh... There is a reason Nvidia is #1. Wake me up when I can get Nvidia on Apple.
- MichaelZuo 7mo agoI would say Catalina in 2019 already had enormous issues, there were hard faults in Console pretty much daily that Apple never bothered to fix. (Plus hundreds of minor faults per day) I had to downgrade to Mojave so the wheels likely came off internally around then.
- lysace 7mo agoI'm getting a strong feeling that the first generation of really, really talented people who built iOS in the 2000s have now to a substantial degree moved on/retired. Similar feeling with OS X/macOS. Please correct me if I'm wrong - it is after all just a feeling.
- sunaookami 7mo agoI have this feeling for every software out there.
- smokel 7mo agoPeople who like building new things, like building new things.
- dzdt 7mo agoAnd people who like getting raises dont like leaving things alone...
- thewebguyd 7mo agoIt’s not overly far fetched. A lot of the software and platforms we use now we’re all developed around the same time period. There’s obviously new talent coming in to the industry but the attitudes are different, and talented people like to make new things not work on someone else’s legacy code. So yeah I think it’ll continue to get worse until something new replaces iOS/Android/macOs/Windows hegemony.
- lysace 7mo agoSo Apple has a new software crisis on their hands. Echoes of the 90s. Well Microsoft too, but their customers are long used to working/living in a dumpster fire.
- ASalazarMX 7mo agoIMO Apple grew too much it became another slow megacorp, more connected to their quarterly reports and shareholders than their consumers and engineers. The growing Apple was the one that gave us innovation. I'm not saying it's dead, not by far, but it has become stale. The biggest innovation it has made in 10+ years was using their mobile processors in laptops.
- realo 7mo agoMaybe they started to use some internal "Siri Code" tool ... They should stick to Claude Code, like everyone else.
- babypuncher 7mo agoI don't think vibecoding is the solution to software quality problems, regardless of what tools/models you are using.