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I think you also might be overestimating what the average ICE owner has to take care of. Most Americans don’t keep a car long enough to even pay it off - they’

by devmor 7mo ago

I think you also might be overestimating what the average ICE owner has to take care of. Most Americans don’t keep a car long enough to even pay it off - they’re in an endless loop of trade-ins, meaning that most non-accident damage is covered by warranty. I’ve had my current ICE car for just over 5 years now and finally paid my first out of pocket repair cost: $40 for a new washable air filter. Other than that, my expenditures have been tires and a couple hundred bucks in oil changes that I didn’t want to do myself.

jader201 7mo ago
> I think you also might be overestimating what the average ICE owner has to take care of. > Most Americans don’t keep a car long enough to even pay it off - they’re in an endless loop of trade-ins, meaning that most non-accident damage is covered by warranty. No, I think you may be underestimating. According to this article [1] at least, it’s close to 13 years. That’s well into large/costly maintenance items. Maybe on HN, people don’t keep their cars long enough to need new brakes or transmission flush, but that’s not typical. [1] https://www.spglobal.com/automotive-insights/en/blogs/2025/05/average-age-of-vehicle-in-us#:~:text=The%20average%20age%20of%20vehicles%20in%20the%20US%20continues%20to,the%20durability%20of%20modern%20vehicles. https://www.spglobal.com/automotive-insights/en/blogs/2025/0... > I’ve had my current ICE car for just over 5 years now and finally paid my first out of pocket repair cost: $40 for a new washable air filter. Repairs are only a subset of maintenance. Maintenance includes oil changes, brakes, transmission flushes, etc. All of this is part of the maintenance that ICE vehicles need that EVs don’t.
- devmor 7mo ago
  Vehicle age != ownership duration. The used car market is thriving and aftermarket warranties are a huge part of this. I also clearly mentioned maintenance in my post - you chose to quote the sentence before it, leaving it out and then respond as if I hadn’t. Please don’t engage me with this kind of dishonest conversation. It’s a waste of both our time.

by devmor 7mo ago

jader201 7mo ago

> I think you also might be overestimating what the average ICE owner has to take care of. > Most Americans don’t keep a car long enough to even pay it off - they’re in an endless loop of trade-ins, meaning that most non-accident damage is covered by warranty. No, I think you may be underestimating. According to this article [1] at least, it’s close to 13 years. That’s well into large/costly maintenance items. Maybe on HN, people don’t keep their cars long enough to need new brakes or transmission flush, but that’s not typical. [1] https://www.spglobal.com/automotive-insights/en/blogs/2025/05/average-age-of-vehicle-in-us#:~:text=The%20average%20age%20of%20vehicles%20in%20the%20US%20continues%20to,the%20durability%20of%20modern%20vehicles. https://www.spglobal.com/automotive-insights/en/blogs/2025/0... > I’ve had my current ICE car for just over 5 years now and finally paid my first out of pocket repair cost: $40 for a new washable air filter. Repairs are only a subset of maintenance. Maintenance includes oil changes, brakes, transmission flushes, etc. All of this is part of the maintenance that ICE vehicles need that EVs don’t.

devmor 7mo ago
Vehicle age != ownership duration. The used car market is thriving and aftermarket warranties are a huge part of this. I also clearly mentioned maintenance in my post - you chose to quote the sentence before it, leaving it out and then respond as if I hadn’t. Please don’t engage me with this kind of dishonest conversation. It’s a waste of both our time.