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I'm no fan of AI in terms of its long term consequences, but being able to "just do things" with the aid of AI tools, diving head first into the most difficult

by drcode 7mo ago

I'm no fan of AI in terms of its long term consequences, but being able to "just do things" with the aid of AI tools, diving head first into the most difficult programming projects, is going to improve the human programming skills worldwide to levels never before imaginable

pragmatic 7mo ago
How would it improve skills? Does driving a car improve your running speed?
- FeteCommuniste 7mo ago
  I've found AI handy as a sort of tutor sometimes, like "I want to do X in Y programming language, what are some tools / libraries I could use for that?" And it will give multiple suggestions, often along with examples, that are pretty close to what I need.
- drcode 7mo ago
  I have to stretch your analogy in weird ways to make it function within this discussion: Imagine two people who have only sat in a chair their whole lives. Then, you have one of them learn how to drive a car, whereas the other one never leaves the chair. The one who learned how to drive a car would then find it easier to learn how to run, compared to the person who had to continue sitting in the chair the whole time.
  - leptons 7mo ago
    You made the analogy worse. It's nonsense. The original analogy is far better.
- literalAardvark 7mo ago
  No, but it does improve your ability to get to classes after work
kgeist 7mo ago
>is going to improve the human programming skills worldwide to levels never before imaginable "We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery. On a quiz that covered concepts they’d used just a few minutes before, participants in the AI group scored 17% lower than those who coded by hand" https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skil...
- drcode 7mo ago
  my comment is that it lowers the threshold to "just doing things" An experiment where people "HAVE TO DO something" either way is testing something different I know a fair amount about native android app development now because of using AI to build several native apps. I would know zero about about native android development if I had never attempted to build a native android app.

by drcode 7mo ago

pragmatic 7mo ago

How would it improve skills? Does driving a car improve your running speed?

FeteCommuniste 7mo ago
I've found AI handy as a sort of tutor sometimes, like "I want to do X in Y programming language, what are some tools / libraries I could use for that?" And it will give multiple suggestions, often along with examples, that are pretty close to what I need.
drcode 7mo ago
I have to stretch your analogy in weird ways to make it function within this discussion: Imagine two people who have only sat in a chair their whole lives. Then, you have one of them learn how to drive a car, whereas the other one never leaves the chair. The one who learned how to drive a car would then find it easier to learn how to run, compared to the person who had to continue sitting in the chair the whole time.
- leptons 7mo ago
  You made the analogy worse. It's nonsense. The original analogy is far better.
literalAardvark 7mo ago
No, but it does improve your ability to get to classes after work

kgeist 7mo ago

>is going to improve the human programming skills worldwide to levels never before imaginable "We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery. On a quiz that covered concepts they’d used just a few minutes before, participants in the AI group scored 17% lower than those who coded by hand" https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skil...

drcode 7mo ago
my comment is that it lowers the threshold to "just doing things" An experiment where people "HAVE TO DO something" either way is testing something different I know a fair amount about native android app development now because of using AI to build several native apps. I would know zero about about native android development if I had never attempted to build a native android app.