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Do they have driver's licenses from a US state?

by jjeaff 7mo ago

whatever1 7mo ago
Is Waymo software licensed by a dmv ?
- Grimblewald 7mo ago
  Yes. Something you should intuit, and is eaisly confirmed with a quick search. It is licensed to drive and the conditions underwhich it may do so are clearly stipulated. If it didnt require a license elon would have his deathtraps littering roadsides with mangled flesh and steel everywhere. Perhaps ask yourself why you asked such a misguided question and consider what you can do different in your cognitive patternd to avoid it in the future.
  - whatever1 7mo ago
    So if it is licensed, the entire stack is licensed even if there are dogs pressing buttons on the other side of the planet. Elons cars are already driving by themselves against the conditions they are licensed for, causing accidents and the liability falls to the drivers. Aka, licensing means absolutely nothing. Specially today.
TheDong 7mo ago
Waymo has a blog post on what these remote assistance people do: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ They effectively are answering questions like "is this road closed", or "is the object in front of me a solid object or a weird shadow". These are not the sort of questions that US driver's license is really related to, it's not things like "can I legally turn right on red at this intersection". Do we require a driver's license to solve Google reCapture questions like "what squares have a bike in them"? Because the waymo stuff is closer to image classification than driving.
- naveen99 7mo ago
  I think if you took a buddy with you to the drivers license test in America and asked your buddy these questions during the test. You and your buddy are both failing. Unless test was in India over tea and not in a car.
  - TheDong 7mo ago
    I guess you're saying that because a waymo car can't walk into the DMV and get a license, it shouldn't be on the road? (which of course it can't, you have to have a legal human identity to get a normal driver's license, and we don't let cars have humanity currently) Driver's licenses are legal constructs. The DMV certifies self-driving cars as able to drive on the road differently, and sure, those two different processes are different. I really don't get the point you're trying to make here.
    - naveen99 7mo ago
      Replace waymo with Optimus, same thing applies.
throw4432334 7mo ago
If they have a driver’s license from the Philippines, then it should be enough. Just like foreign tourists can rent and drive cars in the US without needing a US state driver’s license.
victorbjorklund 7mo ago
Do you think American tourists have to take a Filipino driver’s license when they rent a car on vacation?

Do they have driver's licenses from a US state?

by jjeaff 7mo ago

Do they have driver's licenses from a US state?

whatever1 7mo ago

Is Waymo software licensed by a dmv ?

Grimblewald 7mo ago
Yes. Something you should intuit, and is eaisly confirmed with a quick search. It is licensed to drive and the conditions underwhich it may do so are clearly stipulated. If it didnt require a license elon would have his deathtraps littering roadsides with mangled flesh and steel everywhere. Perhaps ask yourself why you asked such a misguided question and consider what you can do different in your cognitive patternd to avoid it in the future.
- whatever1 7mo ago
  So if it is licensed, the entire stack is licensed even if there are dogs pressing buttons on the other side of the planet. Elons cars are already driving by themselves against the conditions they are licensed for, causing accidents and the liability falls to the drivers. Aka, licensing means absolutely nothing. Specially today.

TheDong 7mo ago

Waymo has a blog post on what these remote assistance people do: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ They effectively are answering questions like "is this road closed", or "is the object in front of me a solid object or a weird shadow". These are not the sort of questions that US driver's license is really related to, it's not things like "can I legally turn right on red at this intersection". Do we require a driver's license to solve Google reCapture questions like "what squares have a bike in them"? Because the waymo stuff is closer to image classification than driving.

naveen99 7mo ago
I think if you took a buddy with you to the drivers license test in America and asked your buddy these questions during the test. You and your buddy are both failing. Unless test was in India over tea and not in a car.
- TheDong 7mo ago
  I guess you're saying that because a waymo car can't walk into the DMV and get a license, it shouldn't be on the road? (which of course it can't, you have to have a legal human identity to get a normal driver's license, and we don't let cars have humanity currently) Driver's licenses are legal constructs. The DMV certifies self-driving cars as able to drive on the road differently, and sure, those two different processes are different. I really don't get the point you're trying to make here.
  - naveen99 7mo ago
    Replace waymo with Optimus, same thing applies.

throw4432334 7mo ago

If they have a driver’s license from the Philippines, then it should be enough. Just like foreign tourists can rent and drive cars in the US without needing a US state driver’s license.

victorbjorklund 7mo ago

Do you think American tourists have to take a Filipino driver’s license when they rent a car on vacation?