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If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!, $500 is 5% of revenue. All else held equal, if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer. The q

If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!, $500 is 5% of revenue. All else held equal, if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer. The question is.. does it actually help you do that, or do you go 0% faster? Or 5% slower? Inquiring minds want to know.

jplusequalt 7mo ago
>If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!, This is the sort of statement that immediately tells me this forum is disconnected from the real world. ~80% of full time workers in the US make less than $10k a month before tax. Source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/
- jon_north 7mo ago
  And yet, the average salary of an IT worker in the US is somewhere between 104 and 110k. Since we're discussing coders here, and IT workers tend to be at the lower end of that, maybe there is some context you didn't consider?
  - jplusequalt 7mo ago
    >And yet, the average salary of an IT worker in the US is somewhere between 104 and 110k. After tax that's like 8% of your take home pay. I don't know why it's unreasonable to scoff at having to pay that much to get the most out of these tools. >maybe there is some context you didn't consider? The context is that the average poster on HN has no idea how hard the real world is as they work really high paying jobs. To make a statement that "$10k a month is not a lot" makes you sound out of touch.
    - jon_north 7mo ago
      We're talking about people who work really high paying jobs deciding if a tool is worth their time. Why would anyone discuss whether or not people who don't work those jobs should be using those tools, when that isn't part of their job?
  - lawn 7mo ago
    And yet, the difference between average and median isn't understood.
- dysoco 7mo ago
  10k is more close to a yearly software developer salary in my country than a monthly one. That being said at least the $20/mo Claude Code subscription is really worth it, and many companies are paying for the AI tools anyways.
jplusequalt 7mo ago
>if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer. Another thing--is your job paying you $500 more per month for going 20% faster?

jplusequalt 7mo ago

>If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!, This is the sort of statement that immediately tells me this forum is disconnected from the real world. ~80% of full time workers in the US make less than $10k a month before tax. Source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

jon_north 7mo ago
And yet, the average salary of an IT worker in the US is somewhere between 104 and 110k. Since we're discussing coders here, and IT workers tend to be at the lower end of that, maybe there is some context you didn't consider?
- jplusequalt 7mo ago
  >And yet, the average salary of an IT worker in the US is somewhere between 104 and 110k. After tax that's like 8% of your take home pay. I don't know why it's unreasonable to scoff at having to pay that much to get the most out of these tools. >maybe there is some context you didn't consider? The context is that the average poster on HN has no idea how hard the real world is as they work really high paying jobs. To make a statement that "$10k a month is not a lot" makes you sound out of touch.
  - jon_north 7mo ago
    We're talking about people who work really high paying jobs deciding if a tool is worth their time. Why would anyone discuss whether or not people who don't work those jobs should be using those tools, when that isn't part of their job?
- lawn 7mo ago
  And yet, the difference between average and median isn't understood.
dysoco 7mo ago
10k is more close to a yearly software developer salary in my country than a monthly one. That being said at least the $20/mo Claude Code subscription is really worth it, and many companies are paying for the AI tools anyways.

jplusequalt 7mo ago

>if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer. Another thing--is your job paying you $500 more per month for going 20% faster?