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Maybe. I don't think we yet have a good understanding of how many deaths he will have caused as a result of DOGE so abruptly cutting off assistance to so many v

Maybe. I don't think we yet have a good understanding of how many deaths he will have caused as a result of DOGE so abruptly cutting off assistance to so many vulnerable people around the world, but I've heard estimates hover around 600,000. Assuming that number turns out to be close to reality, how do you weigh so many unnecessary deaths against VTL rockets and the electric cars? Perhaps a practitioner of Effective Altruism could better answer that question.

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- roboror 7mo ago
  I've seen corruption in the police. Government. Hospitals. Do you support immediately shuttering those offices with no replacements?
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  - sejje 7mo ago
    They could at least just get funded by their own government.
- abustamam 7mo ago
  There is corruption everywhere. But do you deny that these organizations by-and-large provided aid and therefore saves the lives of folks who may have otherwise died from illness? This doesn't make corruption OK. But he tore out a lifeline for some people without giving them an alternative way to get aid.
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- asadm 7mo ago
  Correct. But also, it's a bandaid (and a really ineffective one ie. 99% lossy) on real issues of that world.
- mptest 7mo ago
  > The US taxpayer has no moral obligation to send welfare "around the world". I mean, by way of the atrocities we've committed around the world, we kinda do. Even if we buy your thesis, foregoing morals, geopolitics, and history, it's a useful soft power strategy... I'm not saying fund USAID before healthcare for all in america. I'm saying of all the insane things our government wastes money on, USAID was far down on the list of most egregious.
  - NoMoreNicksLeft 7mo ago
    >I mean, by way of the atrocities we've committed around the world, we kinda do. I've committed no atrocities. Going to guess that you've committed no atrocities. What atrocities did occur, most of those who committed those are dead, the rest are senile in nursing homes. I have no guilt and certainly feel no guilt for those events. >it's a useful soft power strategy. Sure, if you're some sort of tyrant. I thought the left was against colonialism... but you guys really just one a more clever, subtle colonialism eh? Figures. >I'm saying of all the insane things our government wastes money on, USAID was far down on the list of most egregious. What you're saying is that no cuts can or should be made, unless they are your favorite cuts first. And maybe after you get those, no others need be made at all.
    - mptest 7mo ago
      >Sure, if you're some sort of tyrant. I thought the left was against colonialism... but you guys really just one a more clever, subtle colonialism eh? Figures Drastic misrepresentation. I made no value judgements. I simply offered reasons why the above commenter may be wrong. from different points of view. You misunderstand or are naive to the spectrum of how parasitic to symbiotic those soft power relationships can be > What you're saying is that no cuts can or should be made, unless they are your favorite cuts first. And maybe after you get those, no others need be made at all. Nope, just saying there's pretty clear science behind where money could be better spent besides billions in forever wars. Maybe start there? 9$ trillion on pointless wars in the middle east comes to mind? google a map of countries we've overthrown the democratic leader of if you want more examples. all the shahs men is useful too. i could go on. > I've committed no atrocities. Going to guess that you've committed no atrocities. What atrocities did occur, most of those who committed those are dead, the rest are senile in nursing homes. I have no guilt and certainly feel no guilt for those events It's not about that. someone simply had to pay that debt. sorry to tell you those bills they wracked up to accumulate wealth are coming due for the rest of us right or not.
C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 7mo ago
> I don't think we yet have a good understanding of how many deaths he will have caused as a result of DOGE so abruptly cutting off assistance to so many vulnerable people around the world Nor how many deaths will be caused by his support for far right parties across Europe, when they start ethnic cleansings.

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roboror 7mo ago
I've seen corruption in the police. Government. Hospitals. Do you support immediately shuttering those offices with no replacements?
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- sejje 7mo ago
  They could at least just get funded by their own government.
abustamam 7mo ago
There is corruption everywhere. But do you deny that these organizations by-and-large provided aid and therefore saves the lives of folks who may have otherwise died from illness? This doesn't make corruption OK. But he tore out a lifeline for some people without giving them an alternative way to get aid.
- asadm 7mo ago
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asadm 7mo ago
Correct. But also, it's a bandaid (and a really ineffective one ie. 99% lossy) on real issues of that world.
mptest 7mo ago
> The US taxpayer has no moral obligation to send welfare "around the world". I mean, by way of the atrocities we've committed around the world, we kinda do. Even if we buy your thesis, foregoing morals, geopolitics, and history, it's a useful soft power strategy... I'm not saying fund USAID before healthcare for all in america. I'm saying of all the insane things our government wastes money on, USAID was far down on the list of most egregious.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 7mo ago
  >I mean, by way of the atrocities we've committed around the world, we kinda do. I've committed no atrocities. Going to guess that you've committed no atrocities. What atrocities did occur, most of those who committed those are dead, the rest are senile in nursing homes. I have no guilt and certainly feel no guilt for those events. >it's a useful soft power strategy. Sure, if you're some sort of tyrant. I thought the left was against colonialism... but you guys really just one a more clever, subtle colonialism eh? Figures. >I'm saying of all the insane things our government wastes money on, USAID was far down on the list of most egregious. What you're saying is that no cuts can or should be made, unless they are your favorite cuts first. And maybe after you get those, no others need be made at all.
  - mptest 7mo ago
    >Sure, if you're some sort of tyrant. I thought the left was against colonialism... but you guys really just one a more clever, subtle colonialism eh? Figures Drastic misrepresentation. I made no value judgements. I simply offered reasons why the above commenter may be wrong. from different points of view. You misunderstand or are naive to the spectrum of how parasitic to symbiotic those soft power relationships can be > What you're saying is that no cuts can or should be made, unless they are your favorite cuts first. And maybe after you get those, no others need be made at all. Nope, just saying there's pretty clear science behind where money could be better spent besides billions in forever wars. Maybe start there? 9$ trillion on pointless wars in the middle east comes to mind? google a map of countries we've overthrown the democratic leader of if you want more examples. all the shahs men is useful too. i could go on. > I've committed no atrocities. Going to guess that you've committed no atrocities. What atrocities did occur, most of those who committed those are dead, the rest are senile in nursing homes. I have no guilt and certainly feel no guilt for those events It's not about that. someone simply had to pay that debt. sorry to tell you those bills they wracked up to accumulate wealth are coming due for the rest of us right or not.

C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 7mo ago

> I don't think we yet have a good understanding of how many deaths he will have caused as a result of DOGE so abruptly cutting off assistance to so many vulnerable people around the world Nor how many deaths will be caused by his support for far right parties across Europe, when they start ethnic cleansings.