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This is hardly front page worthy hacker news.

YuriNiyazov 14y ago
Michael Arrington returns to Techcrunch, and with pretty high correlation, "this isn't hacker news" comments return to HN.
- methoddk 14y ago
  Because it isn't. Who writes for TechCrunch is not front page worthy news. EDIT: There always seems to be some air of schoolboy drama surrounding TechCrunch. For example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2011/sep/15/techcrunch-arrington-startups http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2011/sep/15/techcrunch-a... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_162-43452680/techcrunch-drama-fest-is-an-aol-management-meltdown/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_162-43452680/techcrunch-d... And I'm sure that this news will spur some, too. Who cares?
  - waterlesscloud 14y ago
    But what Arrington is up to is worth noting. Regardless of anyone's opinion of him, he's been a big factor in shaping the startup press world.
  - petercooper 14y ago
    I'm more amazed it's still trendy for geeks to hate on the people in tech media. Though that would have passed on like platform shoes and bell bottoms by now.
    - methoddk 14y ago
      Not hating on all the people in tech media. I'm hating on two specific people in tech media. Two people who, in my experience reading their material, are biased and their opinions shouldn't hold as much weight as they do. Do you really think that it is okay that they are allowed to be in journalism in an area where they both have financial stake in companies they report on?
      - petercooper 14y ago
        Two people who, in my experience reading their material, are biased and their opinions shouldn't hold as much weight as they do. Everyone's biased. Read any political editorial. They are clear with their biases. There's a slant to everything you have a personal investment in (whether financial or just sheer interest in the topic). Truly objective journalism is very rare nowadays. An ersatz veneer of objectivity is common but that's more insidious, IMHO. Do you really think that it is okay that they are allowed to be in journalism in an area where they both have financial stake in companies they report on? If they disclose it, yes. Journalism is no sacred cow. It's as scummy and scabby as any industry. The fact they disclose their conflicts of interest puts them above any journalist who has been taken for dinner or drinks by a PR flack or big company or flown out on a press junket (pathetically common, rarely disclosed to readers).
ashleyw 14y ago
If Michael Arrington returning to TechCrunch isn't HN-worthy news, I don't know what is!
hnriot 14y ago
It clearly is, hn is about startups and tech, and that's exactly what MA writes about, he's a character in the SV world, just like CEO's of companies and 'star' programmers (Torvalds et al) hn is as much about the personalities as it is the products and companies.
- methoddk 14y ago
  I really don't think the return of two seriously biased writers to an already biased media company is important. Sorry.
hkmurakami 14y ago
It's good to know that I need to get my guard up higher, as his return may up the ante on not only TechCrunch's reporting style, but also those of its competitors as well.
nandemo 14y ago
Given that (IMO, rather unfortunately) Techcrunch stories are posted and upvoted to the front page on a daily basis, this is also front page worthy.

Michael Arrington returns to Techcrunch, and with pretty high correlation, "this isn't hacker news" comments return to HN.

methoddk 14y ago
Because it isn't. Who writes for TechCrunch is not front page worthy news. EDIT: There always seems to be some air of schoolboy drama surrounding TechCrunch. For example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2011/sep/15/techcrunch-arrington-startups http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2011/sep/15/techcrunch-a... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_162-43452680/techcrunch-drama-fest-is-an-aol-management-meltdown/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_162-43452680/techcrunch-d... And I'm sure that this news will spur some, too. Who cares?
- waterlesscloud 14y ago
  But what Arrington is up to is worth noting. Regardless of anyone's opinion of him, he's been a big factor in shaping the startup press world.
- petercooper 14y ago
  I'm more amazed it's still trendy for geeks to hate on the people in tech media. Though that would have passed on like platform shoes and bell bottoms by now.
  - methoddk 14y ago
    Not hating on all the people in tech media. I'm hating on two specific people in tech media. Two people who, in my experience reading their material, are biased and their opinions shouldn't hold as much weight as they do. Do you really think that it is okay that they are allowed to be in journalism in an area where they both have financial stake in companies they report on?
    - petercooper 14y ago
      Two people who, in my experience reading their material, are biased and their opinions shouldn't hold as much weight as they do. Everyone's biased. Read any political editorial. They are clear with their biases. There's a slant to everything you have a personal investment in (whether financial or just sheer interest in the topic). Truly objective journalism is very rare nowadays. An ersatz veneer of objectivity is common but that's more insidious, IMHO. Do you really think that it is okay that they are allowed to be in journalism in an area where they both have financial stake in companies they report on? If they disclose it, yes. Journalism is no sacred cow. It's as scummy and scabby as any industry. The fact they disclose their conflicts of interest puts them above any journalist who has been taken for dinner or drinks by a PR flack or big company or flown out on a press junket (pathetically common, rarely disclosed to readers).

ashleyw 14y ago

If Michael Arrington returning to TechCrunch isn't HN-worthy news, I don't know what is!

hnriot 14y ago

It clearly is, hn is about startups and tech, and that's exactly what MA writes about, he's a character in the SV world, just like CEO's of companies and 'star' programmers (Torvalds et al) hn is as much about the personalities as it is the products and companies.

methoddk 14y ago
I really don't think the return of two seriously biased writers to an already biased media company is important. Sorry.

hkmurakami 14y ago

It's good to know that I need to get my guard up higher, as his return may up the ante on not only TechCrunch's reporting style, but also those of its competitors as well.

nandemo 14y ago

Given that (IMO, rather unfortunately) Techcrunch stories are posted and upvoted to the front page on a daily basis, this is also front page worthy.