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Of course one can pay, build a large collection and have it all yanked away at a whim > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 http://news.ycombinator.com/

Of course one can pay, build a large collection and have it all yanked away at a whim > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 Pirates on the other hand offer a much nicer service that works and doesnt treat customers like crap, maybe the publishing industry can learn from them Anyways this site and many others are busy stripping DRM of ebooks and making it free to download for all!

digitalengineer 14y ago
Yes free as in stolen-content-without-compensating-the-author. I prefer DRM-free books myself (or ripping the DRM and making it DRM-free) but the books at this website are in fact all stolen. (I'm sure you know).
- js951534 14y ago
  Now now don't be looking down at me from your high moral horse The difference between you and the pirates is that pirates also prefer to buy books and strip DRM but they share it with everyone :D By the way authors at best get ~10% commission for each book sale, rest goes to a publisher.
  - ceejayoz 14y ago
    > By the way authors at best get ~10% commission for each book sale, rest goes to a publisher. Not if they're self-sold, which on Amazon means they take 60-70%... and I'd imagine most authors feel 10% is better than your 0%.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    Charlie Stross (cstross) (an author I admire and respect) is sometimes asked why he doesn't have a tip jar on his website. (http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2009/03/reminder-why-theres-no-tipjar.html http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2009/03/reminder...) > Folks still ask me how they can send me money. Usually it's because they've downloaded a warez copy of one or more of my books and enjoyed it and want to pay. Well, I'm happy they enjoyed the books, and pleased that they want to pay me — but still: no tipjar. > If I put a Paypal tipjar on this blog, to take conscience money from folks who've downloaded a (cough) unauthorized ebook or two, the money would come to me, not to the publisher. And without the publisher those books wouldn't exist: wouldn't have been commissioned, wouldn't have been edited, wouldn't have been corrected and marketed and sold in whatever form filtered onto the unauthorized ebook market. (Yes, they commission books, and pay authors for them up-front — a vital part of the process, because most of us can't afford to take a year to write a book on spec and then hope somebody liked it enough to buy it. And if you think my bank manager would front me the kind of advance money that Ace, Orbit, or Tor have no difficulty offering for a novel that isn't even written yet, let alone doing so without charging interest or asking for their money back when the product's late, well ... you might want to think again.) > Your typical book publisher is not like the music or movie industry; they run on thin margins, and they're staffed by underpaid, overworked folk who do it because they love books, not because they're trying to make themselves rich on the back of a thousand ruthlessly exploited artists. I think their effort deserves to be rewarded appropriately. This is, I think, an excellent response.

digitalengineer 14y ago

Yes free as in stolen-content-without-compensating-the-author. I prefer DRM-free books myself (or ripping the DRM and making it DRM-free) but the books at this website are in fact all stolen. (I'm sure you know).

js951534 14y ago
Now now don't be looking down at me from your high moral horse The difference between you and the pirates is that pirates also prefer to buy books and strip DRM but they share it with everyone :D By the way authors at best get ~10% commission for each book sale, rest goes to a publisher.
- ceejayoz 14y ago
  > By the way authors at best get ~10% commission for each book sale, rest goes to a publisher. Not if they're self-sold, which on Amazon means they take 60-70%... and I'd imagine most authors feel 10% is better than your 0%.
- DanBC 14y ago
  Charlie Stross (cstross) (an author I admire and respect) is sometimes asked why he doesn't have a tip jar on his website. (http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2009/03/reminder-why-theres-no-tipjar.html http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2009/03/reminder...) > Folks still ask me how they can send me money. Usually it's because they've downloaded a warez copy of one or more of my books and enjoyed it and want to pay. Well, I'm happy they enjoyed the books, and pleased that they want to pay me — but still: no tipjar. > If I put a Paypal tipjar on this blog, to take conscience money from folks who've downloaded a (cough) unauthorized ebook or two, the money would come to me, not to the publisher. And without the publisher those books wouldn't exist: wouldn't have been commissioned, wouldn't have been edited, wouldn't have been corrected and marketed and sold in whatever form filtered onto the unauthorized ebook market. (Yes, they commission books, and pay authors for them up-front — a vital part of the process, because most of us can't afford to take a year to write a book on spec and then hope somebody liked it enough to buy it. And if you think my bank manager would front me the kind of advance money that Ace, Orbit, or Tor have no difficulty offering for a novel that isn't even written yet, let alone doing so without charging interest or asking for their money back when the product's late, well ... you might want to think again.) > Your typical book publisher is not like the music or movie industry; they run on thin margins, and they're staffed by underpaid, overworked folk who do it because they love books, not because they're trying to make themselves rich on the back of a thousand ruthlessly exploited artists. I think their effort deserves to be rewarded appropriately. This is, I think, an excellent response.