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I unfortunetely have Deutsche Telekom as my ISP and I can confirm that in the evening websites that use Cloudflare have a latency of one minute or simply do not

I unfortunetely have Deutsche Telekom as my ISP and I can confirm that in the evening websites that use Cloudflare have a latency of one minute or simply do not load at all. I don’t understand why anyone that serves the German market would use Cloudflare. Regardless of who is at fault, you are losing a lot of customers that way.

kybernetyk 8mo ago
>Regardless of who is at fault, you are losing a lot of customers that way. Don't know. Germans are stingy. I'm German, I live in Germany yet I don't even localize my software to German anymore because German downloads wouldn't convert in any meaningful way. (Even when I had German localization). It's just anecdotal of course but every other dev I talked to would confirm this unless they had some very germany-specific product.
stanac 8mo ago
One minute latency? Sound like worse experience than dial-up.
lwde 8mo ago
Just switch to 1und1 with good peering (:
- the8472 8mo ago
  Do 1&1 customers get CGNAT or a native v4 address? I have had issues with the AFTR's port mapping tables running full when I was on Unitymedia coax.
  - xioxox 8mo ago
    I get proper IPV4 and IPV6 addresses with Easybell on VDSL. I've been with them a long time and they've been pretty good.
  - arximboldi 8mo ago
    They switched me to CGNAT in my last speed upgrade, but I wrote to them about it and they moved me to native v4 straight away. Their service is good on a technical level but they have the most aggressive and obnoxious sales reps. They scammed me twice with open lies on the phone (probably abusing also the fact that german is not my mother tongue) and had to fight for ages with their customer service later to get the issue resolved. If you wanna go with them, buy on their website and hang up if anyone from 1und1 ever calls. They are official 1und1 reps and they will prove it you yet behave like scammers.
    - hwj 8mo ago
      I can tell you that Deutsche Telekom has much much more aggressive sales reps than 1&1. (I've been with GMX/1&1 for ~15 years and with DT for ~2 years). DT called me on phone over and over again, so much that I had to block them on my FritzBox. Several times they even knocked at my door.

kybernetyk 8mo ago

>Regardless of who is at fault, you are losing a lot of customers that way. Don't know. Germans are stingy. I'm German, I live in Germany yet I don't even localize my software to German anymore because German downloads wouldn't convert in any meaningful way. (Even when I had German localization). It's just anecdotal of course but every other dev I talked to would confirm this unless they had some very germany-specific product.

stanac 8mo ago

One minute latency? Sound like worse experience than dial-up.

lwde 8mo ago

Just switch to 1und1 with good peering (:

the8472 8mo ago
Do 1&1 customers get CGNAT or a native v4 address? I have had issues with the AFTR's port mapping tables running full when I was on Unitymedia coax.
- xioxox 8mo ago
  I get proper IPV4 and IPV6 addresses with Easybell on VDSL. I've been with them a long time and they've been pretty good.
- arximboldi 8mo ago
  They switched me to CGNAT in my last speed upgrade, but I wrote to them about it and they moved me to native v4 straight away. Their service is good on a technical level but they have the most aggressive and obnoxious sales reps. They scammed me twice with open lies on the phone (probably abusing also the fact that german is not my mother tongue) and had to fight for ages with their customer service later to get the issue resolved. If you wanna go with them, buy on their website and hang up if anyone from 1und1 ever calls. They are official 1und1 reps and they will prove it you yet behave like scammers.
  - hwj 8mo ago
    I can tell you that Deutsche Telekom has much much more aggressive sales reps than 1&1. (I've been with GMX/1&1 for ~15 years and with DT for ~2 years). DT called me on phone over and over again, so much that I had to block them on my FritzBox. Several times they even knocked at my door.