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> "Not sure what he would gain from that." Besides the ~$1 million a head he's openly selling[0] pardons for? Why wouldn't he pardon a white-collar felon frau

> "Not sure what he would gain from that." Besides the ~$1 million a head he's openly selling[0] pardons for? Why wouldn't he pardon a white-collar felon fraudster? This president has pardoned dozens of those[1]—frauds who had no reason at all to be deserving of clemency, other than being incredibly rich. He's pardoned fraudsters who defrauded thousands of victims[2]. He's pardoned a fraudster convicted of fraud, who committed fraud again, and he pardoned them a second time[3]. There are no limits. [0] https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-presidential-pardon-process-dda97c15 https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-presidential-pardo... ("Inside the New Fast Track to a Presidential Pardon / Lobbyists close to Trump say their going rate to advocate for a pardon is $1 million") [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_in_the_second_Trump_presidency#List_of_recipients_of_executive_clemency_from_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executi... ("List of recipients of executive clemency from Trump") [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/politics/trump-david-gentile-commutation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/politics/trump-david-g... ("Trump Frees Fraudster Just Days Into Seven-Year Prison Sentence / David Gentile had been found guilty for his role in what prosecutors described as a $1.6 billion scheme that defrauded thousands of investors.") [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/16/us/politics/trump-fraudster-pardon.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/16/us/politics/trump-fraudst... ("Trump Sets Fraudster Free From Prison for a Second Time") > "The crypto community largely backed him in the last election" Gee golly; I wonder why.

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olalonde 8mo ago
From Trump's POV, $1 million is probably not worth the ensuing backlash. FWIW, prediction markets don't seem to believe he will be pardoned either[0]. [0] https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-pardon-before-2027 https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-pardon-before-20...
- epistasis 8mo ago
  Wha backlash? Trump pardoned a Honduran ex-president convicted of smuggling tons of drugs, right in the midst of using the military to bomb boats for unproven drug smuggling, and kidnapped Maduro presumably because of drugs too (or was it oil?). Zero repercussions except for futile anger from internet weirdos like me. This administration seems to relish getting away with things that would destroy any other presidency.
  - munksbeer 8mo ago
    By the way, have any more boats been bombed since the US ousted Maduro?
    - amanaplanacanal 8mo ago
      Yes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-35th-strike-alleged-drug-boat-eastern-pacific-first-since-maduro-capture/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-35th-strike-alleged-drug-boa...
  - olalonde 8mo ago
    The backlash was relatively mild because few of his supporters personally see themselves as victims of the Honduran ex-president. That's very different from SBF—almost everyone who invested in crypto at the time hates him, not to mention the actual FTX customers.
    - epistasis 8mo ago
      Everybody hates Trump, he's the least popular president ever. Unless these crypto folks have massive money and are using it right now to pay Trump tk not pardon SBF, what would they do? What backlash could crypto do? It's not like he can unpardon Trump. Crypto just joins the long line of people who fell for it again and nothing happens. What, is a Republican going to vote against Trump? Hah! Impeachment? What trouble could crypto cause for Trump? Even if they could cause trouble, Trump would just make up charges and send the DOJ after crypto.
      - 8mo ago
- gmd63 8mo ago
  It is disappointing to me that people can look at the list of infamous people he has already pardoned, who have paid him, and then expect that he won't continue acting on trend, just because some shallow-book manipulable prediction market, which is primarily a money laundering tool for event fixers, tells us that it's "not likely".
  - olalonde 8mo ago
    I think that because of my own judgment, not because the market told me. Also, it seems unlikely that someone would burn money to manipulate this market as there's nothing to gain from it. By the way, Trump literally said he won't pardon SBF[0]. It seems money is not the only factor he considers when handing out pardons. [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-not-pardon-sam-bankman-011202848.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-not-pardon-sam-bankman-...
    - arvid-lind 8mo ago
      > By the way, Trump literally said he won't pardon SBF[0]. So Trump will pardon SBF?

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olalonde 8mo ago

From Trump's POV, $1 million is probably not worth the ensuing backlash. FWIW, prediction markets don't seem to believe he will be pardoned either[0]. [0] https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-pardon-before-2027 https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-pardon-before-20...

epistasis 8mo ago
Wha backlash? Trump pardoned a Honduran ex-president convicted of smuggling tons of drugs, right in the midst of using the military to bomb boats for unproven drug smuggling, and kidnapped Maduro presumably because of drugs too (or was it oil?). Zero repercussions except for futile anger from internet weirdos like me. This administration seems to relish getting away with things that would destroy any other presidency.
- munksbeer 8mo ago
  By the way, have any more boats been bombed since the US ousted Maduro?
  - amanaplanacanal 8mo ago
    Yes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-35th-strike-alleged-drug-boat-eastern-pacific-first-since-maduro-capture/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-35th-strike-alleged-drug-boa...
- olalonde 8mo ago
  The backlash was relatively mild because few of his supporters personally see themselves as victims of the Honduran ex-president. That's very different from SBF—almost everyone who invested in crypto at the time hates him, not to mention the actual FTX customers.
  - epistasis 8mo ago
    Everybody hates Trump, he's the least popular president ever. Unless these crypto folks have massive money and are using it right now to pay Trump tk not pardon SBF, what would they do? What backlash could crypto do? It's not like he can unpardon Trump. Crypto just joins the long line of people who fell for it again and nothing happens. What, is a Republican going to vote against Trump? Hah! Impeachment? What trouble could crypto cause for Trump? Even if they could cause trouble, Trump would just make up charges and send the DOJ after crypto.
    - 8mo ago
gmd63 8mo ago
It is disappointing to me that people can look at the list of infamous people he has already pardoned, who have paid him, and then expect that he won't continue acting on trend, just because some shallow-book manipulable prediction market, which is primarily a money laundering tool for event fixers, tells us that it's "not likely".
- olalonde 8mo ago
  I think that because of my own judgment, not because the market told me. Also, it seems unlikely that someone would burn money to manipulate this market as there's nothing to gain from it. By the way, Trump literally said he won't pardon SBF[0]. It seems money is not the only factor he considers when handing out pardons. [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-not-pardon-sam-bankman-011202848.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-not-pardon-sam-bankman-...
  - arvid-lind 8mo ago
    > By the way, Trump literally said he won't pardon SBF[0]. So Trump will pardon SBF?